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#31 Scottish⑦Canuck

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 04:10 PM

Update on the Sion situation:

There's a hearing on Tuesday to determine whether Sion are thrown out of the competition and Celtic take their place. Of course, it would mean that Celtic are put in a more challenging group than they would be had they won, but that's the price for not getting the job done.

Honestly, I'm just thankful for the chance of this lifeline. It's an embarassing way to progress, but with the state of Scottish football being the way it is I'd happily take it with no questions asked.
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:05 AM

Update on the Sion situation:

There's a hearing on Tuesday to determine whether Sion are thrown out of the competition and Celtic take their place. Of course, it would mean that Celtic are put in a more challenging group than they would be had they won, but that's the price for not getting the job done.

Honestly, I'm just thankful for the chance of this lifeline. It's an embarassing way to progress, but with the state of Scottish football being the way it is I'd happily take it with no questions asked.


If you cant beat Sion, you dont deserve to be in the competition and to be honest, is it really worth it? There is not that much money to be earned because there is no way they will progress out of any group. Scottish football is an absolute joke and
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 03:55 AM

If you cant beat Sion, you dont deserve to be in the competition and to be honest, is it really worth it? There is not that much money to be earned because there is no way they will progress out of any group. Scottish football is an absolute joke and


I agree that we don't deserve it. But if we do end up in it I'm not going to complain.

As for money, what you've got to remember is that for each home game (assuming there is an average attendance of 55,000 - which is realistic) at an average of £25 a ticket the club will be making about £1.3 million in ticket sales, which is a lot of money in Scottish football.

So whilst we don't deserve it, we kind of need it.

http://www.guardian....opa-league-sion

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 08:13 AM

Group A
TOTTENHAM
Rubin Kazan
PAOK
Shamrock Rovers

Group B
FC Copenhagen
Standard Liege
Hannover 96
Vorskla Poltava

Group C
PSV
Hapoel Tel-Aviv
Rapid Bucuresti
Legia Warsaw

Group D
Sporting
Lazio
FC Zurich
FC Vaslui

Group E
Dynamo Kiev
Besiktas
STOKE
Maccabi Tel-Aviv

Group F
PSG
Athletic Bilbao
SV Red Bull Salzburg
Slovan Bratislava

Group G
AZ
Metalist Kharkiv
FK Austria Vienna
Malmo FF

Group H
Braga
Club Brugge
BIRMINGHAM
Maribor

Group I
Atletico Madrid
Udinese
Rennes
Sion or CELTIC

Group J
Schalke 04
Steaua Bucuresti
Maccabi Haifa
AEK

Group K
FC Twente
FULHAM
Odense
Wisla Krakow

Group L
Anderlecht
AEK Athens
Lokomotiv Moscow
SK Sturm Graz
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:06 AM

Wow, so the two best teams in the SPL can't even qualify for the Europa Cup? Yikes.

My Everton buddy was making fun of my Rangers buddy saying the SPL is like Div 3 in England. Although a huge exaggeration it doesn't seem that far off now. My scottish friend was convinced Rangers could be competitive in the Champions League, yet they somehow can't even qualify for Europa against some Slovenian team I've never heard of.

And I like City's draw for the CL. Prove yourselves now cause you haven't proven anything yet, other than you have money and buy every good player available to weaken your competition.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:16 PM

Barca wins another cup!! Nice to see fabregas score :)
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 02:52 PM

Just seen the Chelsea/Norwich highlights............the rent boys are awful and will get buried @ Old Trafford (as long as Martin Atkinson is not the ref)
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 05:48 PM

Interesting history should Celtic be reinstated. Unfinished business.

Bayern Munich were drawn to play Ujpest Dosza and so, as fate would have it, Celtic were drawn against Atletico Madrid.

At the time not a great deal was known about Atletico. They had been living in the shadow if city rivals Real for years. However, alarm bells started ringing when it was revealed that their coach was the infamous Juan Carlos Lorenzo. He had been in charge of the Argentinian national squad at the 1966 World Cup who had been branded 'animals' by Alf Ramsey after their quarter-final match against England at Wembley.

Atletico's arrival in Glasgow for the first leg of the European Cup tie did little to dispel growing unease that we were in for a similar kind Donnybrook. The Madrid players had been limbering up for the Wednesday night's game by kicking the seven shades of crap out of each other during a training session. Things got so out of hand that two of their Argentinian contingent had a square go in the middle of the pitch, pictures of which appeared in the Tuesday night's evening paper.

In front of 70,000 at Parkhead the teams lined up on Wednesday 10th April 1974 as follows:

CELTIC: Connaghan, Hay, Brogan; Murray, McNeill, McCluskey; Johnstone, Hood, Deans, Callaghan, Dalglish.

ATLETICO MADRID: Thug; Psycho, Punch; Spit, Hatchet, Bludgeon; Hammer, Thump, Wallop, Gouge, Axe-Murderer

The unlikely - and downright unlucky - referee chosen to officiate that evening was a hapless Turkish gentleman by the name of Dogan Babacan. He looked a bit like Arthur Lowe's officious bumbling bank manager character, Mr. Mainwaring, from Dad's Army. He probably felt greatly honoured being entrusted with such a major football spectacle. Little did he know, he stood as much chance of controlling this game as the last referee at the Rome final of 46 BC, Christians FC versus Lions United.

The first name was in Mr. Babacan's notebook after only seven minutes following a vicious assault on Johnstone. It set the tone for the rest of the evening's football extravaganza.

Babacan got a chance to practice more Spanish a minute later. Jinky's bruises from the game against Racing in Montivideo seven years before had just cleared up the previous week when a lump nut by the name of Ruben Diaz - who had actually played in that match - decided to renew his acquaintance with the Celtic winger. It was merely the first of his many assaults that night.

With the crowd already worked up into a frenzy at the sight of the atrocities being committed by the Atletico players, Celtic had a goal disallowed after ten minutes. It did little to dampen an atmosphere which had taken a decided turn towards the volatile.

Neither did the antics of Atletico Madrid. It became clear very quickly that the remaining eighty minutes of the match was simply going to be replay of the first ten. Name followed name into the ref's notebook, which he was forced to swap at half-time for a 200 page ring-binder.

Eventually, having flashed the yellow ten times, he sent off the first Atletico player midway through the second half. By this time Dixie Deans had been substituted and was soaking his bruises in the bath. Hearing the roar of the crowd which greeted the dismissal of the Spanish player and thinking it might be a goal, he decided to get out of the bath to investigate. Wearing nothing but a towel he was met in the corridor by an irate Argentinian - who proceeded to give him a kick on the way past!

Meanwhile, back on the pitch things were degenerating quickly. Jinky was being kicked around like a discarded lager can as well as being treated by his opponents like a red-haired punchbag. Dalglish and Hay were also being singled out for special attention. It was all too much for poor Mr. Babacan who must have wished he was somewhere on the Russian Front rather than at Parkhead.

By the end of the game Madrid had been reduced to eight players, five of whom, including the 'keeper, had been booked.

They had achieved their 0:0 draw but they weren't finished yet. On the way up the tunnel Jimmy Johnstone was brutally assaulted yet again. It was the final provocation for the Celtic players. A punch-up ensued which had to be sorted out by Strathclyde's Finest.

Next morning a picture appeared on the back pages of the papers. It featured Jimmy Johnstone semi-naked showing off his bruises. He looked as if he'd been battered for a fortnight with a hammer then given a good rub down with sandpaper.

Although the first leg had been shown live on Spanish TV, Atletico quickly got to work after the match with their propaganda campaign. They claimed that they were the victims of a concerted and orchestrated campaign of abuse at the hands of Celtic, the referee and, of all people, the Glasgow Police. They alleged that the Feds had come into their dressing room and beat up their players. It was preposterous, as anyone who has ever had any contact with the Glasgow Police will know. As was the assertion that Celtic had bribed the referee. If only the Spanish people had realised how difficult it was to prize open Desmond White's Biscuit Tin to pay our own players never mind find extra money to give backhanders to the ref.

Despite public clamour for Celtic not to play the second leg, the spineless board decided in their infinite wisdom that they risked retribution from FIFA should they fail to fulfil the fixture, so they travelled to Madrid to play out the remainder of the farce.

Training for the players in the Spanish capital was carried out under the watchful gaze of heavily armed police, while a death threat to Jimmy Johnstone added to the friendly reception. It was the ideal preparation for such an important match.

On April 24th 1974 the Celtic team which took the field for the second leg was: Connaghan; McGrain, Brogan; Hay, McNeill, McCluskey; Johnstone, Murray, Dalglish, Hood, Lennox

Celtic duly lost two late goals and the Atletico team, which bore little resemblance to the one which played in Glasgow - due to the fact that the hatchet men had all been restored to their shebeens in the back streets of Marseille - went through to the final in Brussels.

What was to be done? Rangers had been banned from Europe a mere two years previous to this following the performance of their lunatic fringe in Barcelona when they won the Cup Winners Cup, events over which the club itself had no control. Atletico had actually sanctioned the atrocities which they passed off in the name of football which themselves could have started a riot. Surely UEFA would have to take drastic action? Not a bit of it. Atletico were fined £14,000 - little more than the average bribe for a match official in those days - and six of their cloggers were banned for a couple of games. Only if Babacan had been forced to abandon the match at Parkhead by sending off another of their players, and God knows he wasn't short of candidates, could the football authorities have been expected to take stronger action.

An article in World Soccer provided as good a summary of events as any: What a shame it is a team from Madrid who have to leave the fans with such cruel feelings and agonising memories. Up until the Parkhead first leg fiasco Madrid had always thrown up visions of the legendary Real with di Stefano gliding through the centre, Gento sweeping magnificently down the wing, Puskas and his lethal shooting power, the towering defensive work of Santamaria. One giant, ugly, clumsy foot has trodden these cherished memories well and truly into the dirt.

Postscript Atletico went to Brussels to play Bayern and for a while it looked as if they were going to win the trophy. 0:0 at the end of 90 minutes, the Spaniards scored with six minutes of extra time to play. But, mercifully, the Germans scored in the final minute to take the game to a replay, which Bayern won by 4:0. Ten years after the Parkhead fiasco we eventually got our chance for revenge against Atletico, this time in the Cup Winners Cup. However, thanks to another shower of cheating bastards - in this case Rapid Vienna - the match was ordered to be played behind closed doors. We'll have to nurse our wrath for a few more years yet.


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 06:10 PM

Anyone saw the Drogba knockout? Damn...
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:41 PM

Anyone saw the Drogba knockout? Damn...


yeah, ouch. he is ok though, thankfully.
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 11:23 PM

well, at least Arsenal didnt go and panic buy on deadline day :lol:
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:57 PM

I don't think anyone's going to argue that they didn't need a CB (Mertesacker) and a creator (Arteta) after the departure of Fabregas and Nasri. Arshavin's been so poor as well.

but hey, kick em while they're down why don't you?
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:58 AM

Celtic are back in Europe :towel:
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:20 AM

Euro Qualifiers today correct? If so, hoping my Azzurri get the win. Some extra help in the other games to ensure qualification wouldn't be so bad.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:32 AM

Euro Qualifiers today correct? If so, hoping my Azzurri get the win. Some extra help in the other games to ensure qualification wouldn't be so bad.


Yeah. I think I've got a bet on them to win 3-0. Or 4-0... can't remember.

Germany Austria should be a good one to watch too.
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:24 PM

just home from hampden........gutted, absolutely gutted. cheating dutch, czech w@nkers. disgusting
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 06:25 PM

Absolutely disgusted with the referee today. Likely cost us a place in Euro 2012. But what's new? We're Scottish. Nothing ever goes our way.

Cheating Czech B's.


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Posted 03 September 2011 - 07:12 PM

Absolutely disgusted with the referee today. Likely cost us a place in Euro 2012. But what's new? We're Scottish. Nothing ever goes our way.

Cheating Czech B's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3EY3-Kep0w

Wow! I'd be upset as well. Talk about being robbed of 3 points. If the ref was gonna award that questionable penalty to the Czechs, how couldn't he have awarded another penalty on an even worse challenge? Horrible indeed.
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Posted 04 September 2011 - 01:42 AM

Just seen Smicer on the tv being interviewed after yesterdays farce, he said the cheat that dived "did well to win the penalty" why is there not the 2 officials behind the goals in Euro qualifiers when there is in the Champions league? Both competitions fall under UEFA's banner. Surely an official on that side of Mcgregors goal would have seen the dive.

They are calling to have the ref demoted, he should be sacked!!!! Anyway, when did Ronald Koeman start reffing?
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 02:30 PM

YAASSS!

Scotland are never easy to watch. But we've got the win. Let's beat Spain boys! :lol:
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Posted 06 September 2011 - 02:55 PM

Ashley Young is a pimp right now. That win basically has England qualify for Euro unless they lose by an enormous amount of goals to Montenegro (who have to win both of their remaining games).
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Posted 09 September 2011 - 12:45 PM

Serie A started today. 2-2 between Milan and my Lazio. Klose and Cisse for the Biacazzurri and Ibra and Cassano for the champs. Another 45 to go.
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 01:30 PM

cant wait till the rent boys game on sunday, put those jumped up cockney twats in their place
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 10:06 AM

Can I talk about how miserable Notts Forest has had as a start to this season?
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:32 PM

Can I talk about how miserable Notts Forest has had as a start to this season?


i guess last night didnt help............ouch!!!!
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 11:53 AM

What is it about Scottish teams getting cheated out of wins? Bullsh*t.
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Posted 29 September 2011 - 02:59 PM

What is it about Scottish teams getting cheated out of wins? Bullsh*t.


referance I take it to the rugby last sunday and the czech republic at hampden?

still, celtic should not even be there so every euro gained is a bonus
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 06:53 AM

As much as I like Lennon, he's got to go now. While he still has the respect of the fans. This team should not be 10pts behind Rangers at this stage of the season.
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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:24 AM

As much as I like Lennon, he's got to go now. While he still has the respect of the fans. This team should not be 10pts behind Rangers at this stage of the season.


he had no right to that job in the first place and he has made Celtic, as much as I cant stand them, a massive club with great tradition, a complete laughing stock. He is an embaressment to not only Celtic but Scottish football as a whole. The quicker he f**ks off the better and take Scott Brown with him
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 12:33 PM

cheating czech c**ts, spain are quite good though :shock:
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Posted Yesterday, 09:07 AM

It's not 7.5 per year, Kesler's at 5 million and Malhotra's at 2.5 million




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