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Gretzky's Mullet Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ron Paul is the most ultra-conservative candidate running. He doesn't believe in spending on anything at all. We've tried the trickle-down system and we know it doesn't work. Also, Paul is one of the most egregious climate change deniers, and he represents voters on the Gulf Coast, for God's sakes, and he should've seen the effects first hand, as that's one of the most environmentally sensitive. He's a doctor, and demonstrably intelligent, which means he has to either be also profoundly dishonest or batcrap insane when it comes to ignoring the clear science on this and on other issues. I agree with Ron Paul's aversion to war, but he's also a downright xenophobe too. Wasn't he one of the big proponents of the border fence? Heck even Rick Perry seems measured on that issue compared to Paul. All of these "small government" over anything else types are a little kooky. It's not that I think government should be massive and bloated, but there are some things, like education, environmental oversight, health care etc, that are not efficiently handled at the "state level" as these people all seem to think. The federal government does serve a function, and years of letting the free market dictate certain issues has not made them work properly. Now, if he was out campaigning hard on eliminating all business influence on the government, such as by crippling lobbies etc, then it'd be easier to support him. He's not as much in bed with the finance industry as some of the other GOP guys so I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ron Paul is the most ultra-conservative candidate running. He doesn't believe in spending on anything at all. We've tried the trickle-down system and we know it doesn't work. Also, Paul is one of the most egregious climate change deniers, and he represents voters on the Gulf Coast, for God's sakes, and he should've seen the effects first hand, as that's one of the most environmentally sensitive. He's a doctor, and demonstrably intelligent, which means he has to either be also profoundly dishonest or batcrap insane when it comes to ignoring the clear science on this and on other issues. I agree with Ron Paul's aversion to war, but he's also a downright xenophobe too. Wasn't he one of the big proponents of the border fence? Heck even Rick Perry seems measured on that issue compared to Paul. All of these "small government" over anything else types are a little kooky. It's not that I think government should be massive and bloated, but there are some things, like education, environmental oversight, health care etc, that are not efficiently handled at the "state level" as these people all seem to think. The federal government does serve a function, and years of letting the free market dictate certain issues has not made them work properly. Now, if he was out campaigning hard on eliminating all business influence on the government, such as by crippling lobbies etc, then it'd be easier to support him. He's not as much in bed with the finance industry as some of the other GOP guys so I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navyblue Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I was going to attempt to tackle that.....but something inside told me that some one else would do a much better job. +1 ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ron Paul is the most ultra-conservative candidate running. He doesn't believe in spending on anything at all. We've tried the trickle-down system and we know it doesn't work. Also, Paul is one of the most egregious climate change deniers, and he represents voters on the Gulf Coast, for God's sakes, and he should've seen the effects first hand, as that's one of the most environmentally sensitive. He's a doctor, and demonstrably intelligent, which means he has to either be also profoundly dishonest or batcrap insane when it comes to ignoring the clear science on this and on other issues. I agree with Ron Paul's aversion to war, but he's also a downright xenophobe too. Wasn't he one of the big proponents of the border fence? Heck even Rick Perry seems measured on that issue compared to Paul. All of these "small government" over anything else types are a little kooky. It's not that I think government should be massive and bloated, but there are some things, like education, environmental oversight, health care etc, that are not efficiently handled at the "state level" as these people all seem to think. The federal government does serve a function, and years of letting the free market dictate certain issues has not made them work properly. Now, if he was out campaigning hard on eliminating all business influence on the government, such as by crippling lobbies etc, then it'd be easier to support him. He's not as much in bed with the finance industry as some of the other GOP guys so I'll give him that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ron Paul is a bigot and would allow businesses to practice discrimination if he has his way. He is not a leader for 'all' Americans. Think about that before you laud him, Ron Paul supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ron Paul is a bigot and would allow businesses to practice discrimination if he has his way. He is not a leader for 'all' Americans. Think about that before you laud him, Ron Paul supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbridled_id Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 You are also a bigot so spare the board of your absurd indignation. Paul is a Libertarian and therefore will not secure the nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ron Paul is a bigot and would allow businesses to practice discrimination if he has his way. He is not a leader for 'all' Americans. Think about that before you laud him, Ron Paul supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretzky's Mullet Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Trickle down is a general term to describe the ridiculous and misguided notion that economic wealth at the top benefits the bottom. Slashing taxes and social programs is a common tactic. It's a failed mantra, but it's at the core of Ron Paul's fiscal beliefs. Remember the "Secure Fence Act"? See who voted for it here http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/house/2/votes/446/ That was an act to spend billions of dollars on fencing to keep the Mexicans out. Ron Paul was in favour. Xenophobia, definition: "Intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries" I'd say someone who thinks they need an electric fence to guard against the evil conniving Mexicans can qualify as a xenophobe. He's talked tough on immigrants of all stripes for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navyblue Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CoQWAXuUyI Ron Maclean, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretzky's Mullet Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 You guys seem to think libertarianism is an actual workable political philosophy. You're certainly not the only ones drinking the Ayn Rand koolaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I agree, he could do better on civil rights but of the candidates for the GOP, he is the only one against government racially profiling people. I think the worst discriminator in the USA is the government itself especially with the Wars on Terror and Drugs which seem to target minorities. Although he said he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act, I haven't seen anywhere where he said would repeal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navyblue Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 RP isn't a bigot, no, HES ILLUMINATI!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild#9 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 That video makes me laugh so hard everytime. The nice music, the casual look on his face with Perry walking into the shot. And then he softly adds in "liberal attacks," "war on religion," etc. If any of these republicans get voted as president (Ron Paul being the exception), the U.S is truly ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navyblue Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 You both should look at his economic platform and figure out exactly why I'm asserting that under him, racial discrimination would flourish. It's his fundamental views on how business would operate under a Ron Paul administration. It would take the country back into the Jim Crow Era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Situation Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Trickle down is a general term to describe the ridiculous and misguided notion that economic wealth at the top benefits the bottom. Slashing taxes and social programs is a common tactic. It's a failed mantra, but it's at the core of Ron Paul's fiscal beliefs. Remember the "Secure Fence Act"? See who voted for it here http://projects.wash...se/2/votes/446/ That was an act to spend billions of dollars on fencing to keep the Mexicans out. Ron Paul was in favour. Xenophobia, definition: "Intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries" I'd say someone who thinks they need an electric fence to guard against the evil conniving Mexicans can qualify as a xenophobe. He's talked tough on immigrants of all stripes for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Trickle down is a general term to describe the ridiculous and misguided notion that economic wealth at the top benefits the bottom. Slashing taxes and social programs is a common tactic. It's a failed mantra, but it's at the core of Ron Paul's fiscal beliefs. Remember the "Secure Fence Act"? See who voted for it here http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/house/2/votes/446/ That was an act to spend billions of dollars on fencing to keep the Mexicans out. Ron Paul was in favour. Xenophobia, definition: "Intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries" I'd say someone who thinks they need an electric fence to guard against the evil conniving Mexicans can qualify as a xenophobe. He's talked tough on immigrants of all stripes for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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