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Michael Moore does get around dosn't he? He is so good at promoting himself.

He is a hyprocrite though, he attacks capitalism, yet he benefits from capitalism by making money off his books and movies. I wonder how much he makes and if he is a multi-millionare.

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Wolf? Is that you?

This interview reminds me of how much I can't stand CNN, especially Wolf Blitzer and Andy Cooper. I wonder if they still do fake broadcasts like the incubator baby fiasco pre gulf war.

I think Michael Moore genuinely cares. Just this guy's opinion though.

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The declaration:

Declaration of the Occupation of New York City

Posted on September 30, 2011 by NYCGA

THIS DOCUMENT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE NYC GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON SEPTEMBER 29, 2011

TRANSLATIONS: FRENCH, SLOVAK, SPANISH

As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.

They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.

They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.

They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

To the people of the world,

We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

Join us and make your voices heard!

*These grievances are not all-inclusive.

Update 10/1/11 – Minor updates to some wording in the facts.

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Actually, establishment Republicans hate the Tea Party and only pay lip service to them. Establishment Republicans are big business oriented and they get their power and money from corporations. They are in favour of of bailing out banks and large corporations. Establishment Republicans are those old school rich guys like the Rockefellas and the Bushes. These are the Yale and Ivy School people who look down on the Tea Party like they are country hicks. Believe it or not, they don't particularly like Sarah Palin or similar low class types.

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It's about them complaining about how bad businesses and corporations are, even though their entire lifestyle is based on products and services which those same companies provide for them.

Plus, if they really want to be protesters and revolutionaries, put your money where your mouth is. If you hate Starbucks, Nike, Apple, Telus and Ford.... don't drive your little Ford Focus, while sporting the latest Nike runners, then heading down to the nearest Starbucks for a 5 dollars venti coffee to sit and chat with your friends meanwhile tweeting and surfing the internet with your iPhone from Telus to plan your next "big move" in your "proletariat struggles" with your wannabe socialist/communist friends.

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<br />That just proves it's two sides of the same coin.<br /><br />Ron Paul's appeal is that he is extremely intelligent and well informed, is pro USA and, most of all, is a complete departure from the 'business as usual' DC. Americans are beginning to clamour for real change, the kind they wanted at the last election. I expect that Mr Paul will do even better for himself this time and will continue to be blacked out and ridiculed by the main stream. He is, however, a chance to right the ship, something that neither party seems able to do.<br />
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That just proves it's two sides of the same coin.

Ron Paul's appeal is that he is extremely intelligent and well informed, is pro USA and, most of all, is a complete departure from the 'business as usual' DC. Americans are beginning to clamour for real change, the kind they wanted at the last election. I expect that Mr Paul will do even better for himself this time and will continue to be blacked out and ridiculed by the main stream. He is, however, a chance to right the ship, something that neither party seems able to do.

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I found this article interesting.

It appears even the Prison Planet wackos are against this movement.

Occupy Wall Street: A Globalist Op?

How can a Movement funded by Globalists end the Globalist Scheme to Enslave the World?

by Kurt Nimmo

How can a movement originated and funded by globalists end the globalist scheme to enslave the world?

“There is one major inaccuracy in all the coverage that has been bothering me, and that is the focus on Anonymous as the architects and organizers of the event,” an email received September 23 states. “The initial call for the protest was put out by the magazine Adbusters.”

The person, who shall remain nameless at this point – since I have not gained his permission to quote the private email he sent to me – is not merely a bystander or an outsider making an observation. He claims to be intimately connected to the movement through the General Assembly of New York [1], described as the central planning and organizing committee for the protest. His Facebook page reveals he is indeed connected to Occupy Wall Street.

The Adbusters Media Foundation describes itself [2] as a non-profit “anti-consumerist” organization that functions as “a global network of artists, activists, writers, pranksters, students, educators and entrepreneurs who want to advance the new social activist movement of the information age.”

Like many so-called leftist non-profits, Adbusters is a creature of globalist foundations. According to research conducted by Activistcash.com [3], Adbusters takes money from a number of supposedly progressive foundations, including the big Kahuna of leftish foundations – the Tides Foundation and Tides Center. Between 1996 and 2003, Tides doled out $334,217.00 to Adbusters, by far the largest amount of eight foundations donating.

Steve Baldwin [4] claims Tides received over $7 million from George Soros. Although the monetary connection between Tides’ founder Drummond Pike and the arch globalist [5] Soros is somewhat murky, researcher Ron Arnold [6] has mapped out numerous connections between the two so-called philanthropists. Under IRS rules, Drummond is not obliged to reveal who he receives money from to fund a large number of supposedly progressive organizations.

“The Tides Foundation is a pass-through for other foundations’ money,” writes Arnold. “Tides Foundation is a public charity, not a private foundation. Tides Foundation passes other foundations’ money to a spectrum of left-wing organizations which the original donors would not or could not support on their own… Because none of the more than 260 projects under the Tides umbrella files its own Form 990 with the IRS, their finances are totally secret and not available for public inspection, an issue that requires congressional remedy.”

The Dj Osiris [8] blog adds further detail: “It would seem George Soros is connected to the U.S. Day of Rage aka Occupy Wall Street through The Ruckus Society. On the U.S. Day of Rage website. [9] The Ruckus Society receives funding from the Tides Foundation [10] and George Soros’ Open Society Institute provides grants to Tides, including a mere $4.2 Million in 2008, the last year figures are available.”

As the filmmaker Michael Moore [11]admitted to We Are Change activist and journalist Luke Rudkowski last week, the goal of the movement funded in large part with globalist lucre is to attack and dismantle capitalism. Moore discounted out of hand any effort to end the Federal Reserve and return the nation to sound and honest money controlled by the American people, not a cartel of bankers and oligarchs from the financial class, including George Soros.

Instead of addressing issues that will solve the serious social and political problems created by fractional reserve banking and other scams run by the ruling elite, the Soros lubricated anti-capitalist movement will steer popular outrage and political reaction into fireproof channels that can be controlled by globalist forces behind the curtain.

On the so-called right side of the political spectrum, a similar operation was carried out against the Libertarian Tea Party movement, now largely a cheering section and amen choir for the establishment Republican Party that is dominated by neocon personalities such as Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and the political cameleon and former Gore operative Rick Perry.

The Occupy Wall Street movement, funded by globalist foundations – and increasingly receiving sympathetic coverage by the corporate media, at least its “liberal” wing – is nowdescribing itself [12] as a gathering of “descamisados” (impoverished, landless) arrayed against the “estancieros” (land owners), a class warfare reference made popular in Argentina.

In reality, it is another consolidation of wealth program designed by the elite. Warren Buffet [13]may take to the pages of the New York Times and call for taxing the “rich,” but what he is advocating is in essence a wealth consolidation program.

The ruling elite, their banks and transnational corporations do not pay taxes [14], the little people do, as Leona Helmsely arrogantly noted. Increasing taxes on the “1 percent,” as the movement demands, to save the “99 percent,” will result in a further erosion of the middle class, as the elite know.

“The higher taxes may very well cause the smaller businesses to go out of business,” notes theCollateral Damage [15] blog. “They won’t have the economies of scale to compete with the bigger corporations, so what ends up happening is that the small business assets eventually get sold to the big corporations, usually for a fraction of what the assets are worth. So in effect, it ends up being a wealth transfer from the middle class to the super elite rich.”

If we look beyond the facile socialist rhetoric and examine who is funding and essentially running the Occupy Wall Street movement – the “liberal” foundations with the same globalist goal as their supposed ideological enemies on the so-called right (who defused the real Tea Party movement) – we realize that the movement is essentially another effort to colonize political opposition and render it ineffective and politically impotent.

The real movement, and the one posing a serious threat to the “1 percent,” the global elite, is calling for an end to the Federal Reserve, a return to the core principles of our once proud constitutional republic, and sound, honest money not controlled by the elite and the financial sector now tasked with taking down the economy and reducing America to a third-world wasteland.

Notes

[1] General Assembly of New York: http://www.thenation.com/article/163719/occupy-wall-street-faq

[2] describes itself: http://www.adbusters.org/about/adbusters

[3] research conducted by Activistcash.com: http://activistcash.com/organization_financials.cfm/o/36-adbusters

[4] Steve Baldwin: http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/who-funds-the-radical-left-in-america/

[5] arch globalist: http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/11/16/billionaire-soros-wins-cic-globalist-of-the-year-award/

[6] Ron Arnold: http://www.undueinfluence.com/soros-and-pike.htm

[7] Image: http://rotate.infowars.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a44dee25&cb=1654322

[8] Dj Osiris: http://djosiris.blogspot.com/2011/10/george-soros-acorn-seiu-are-behind.html

[9] U.S. Day of Rage website.: http://usdayofrage.org/public-announcements/111-us-day-of-rage-san-francisco-sept17-usdor-usdorca-occupywallstreet-usdayofrageca.html

[10] The Ruckus Society receives funding from the Tides Foundation: http://activistcash.com/organization_connections.cfm/o/188-ruckus-society

[11] Michael Moore: http://www.prisonplanet.com/michael-moore-hearts-the-federal-reserve.html

[12] describing itself: http://coloneldespard.wordpress.com/2011/10/01/we-are-the-99-percent-occupy-wall-street-tax-the-rich/

[13] Warren Buffet: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html

[14] do not pay taxes: http://boingboing.net/2011/02/27/why-are-americas-lar.html

[15] Collateral Damage: http://blog.voogru.com/2011/09/10/why-warren-buffet-is-misleading-you-about-his-taxes/

Kurt Nimmo is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global Research Articles by Kurt Nimmo

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I can't argue with that logic, Don.

The Leafs will never win the Cup.

You might be right. It might get worse under Paul... but it's certainly going to get worse without him anyway.

Maybe the US needs to hit rock bottom before they undergo true reform.

Without a radical change like Paul I see one of two scenarios for the States. 1) The break-up of the Union due to economic and political instability, or 2) civil war/insurrection within 20 years.

I am banking on the 1st scenario. Literally.

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