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#31 Brayden

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:36 PM

So what's your stance exactly? You think a gesture of donation's to a police force is somehow fixing problems? It's not bribery?

Oh, I'm not insulting you by the way, it's just hard for anyone to agree with you on this when you brag about being from the wealthiest area of Vancouver. Go join the champagne drinkers on the balcony.


I figure that its good for JP Morgan to donate money to the police(as they are the source of the discontent), Its not bribery, they aren't gaining anything from the police presence other than security. So How many millions of dollars will these protest's cost the police? And there will always be cases of police acting out of line, but 99% of them have done a good job.

And i refered them as Protesters/Hipster's because they are not organized, they have no demands, they just want something to blog about.

and this statement "west van, daddy's money, boy. " is not supposed to be an insult? assuming that I'm somehow bankrolled and a boy?

how is it different from Surrey, no morals, uneducated (as a example)

Edited by Brayden, 02 October 2011 - 08:37 PM.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:41 PM

So what's your stance exactly? You think a gesture of donation's to a police force is somehow fixing problems? It's not bribery?

More money so they can do this I guess? Oink oink.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ05rWx1pig

Oh, I'm not insulting you by the way, it's just hard for anyone to agree with you on this when you brag about being from the wealthiest area of Vancouver. Go join the champagne drinkers on the balcony.

I was wrong in my assumption that you were against excluding people based on their wealth level.
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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.

Logic at its finest.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:46 PM

and this statement "west van, daddy's money, boy. " is not supposed to be an insult? assuming that I'm somehow bankrolled and a boy?

how is it different from Surrey, no morals, uneducated (as a example)


It's not different it just falls under the banner of allowable ignorance against the "haves".
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View Postnhlconspiracy, on 21 April 2011 - 02:05 PM, said:

It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.

Logic at its finest.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:50 PM

So what's your stance exactly? You think a gesture of donation's to a police force is somehow fixing problems? It's not bribery?

More money so they can do this I guess? Oink oink.

Pretty good use of bailout money, I must say.

Edited by Buggernut, 02 October 2011 - 09:07 PM.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

"Oh, I'm not insulting you by the way, it's just hard for anyone to agree with you on this when you brag about being from the wealthiest area of Vancouver. Go join the champagne drinkers on the balcony."


I have never mentioned that i'm from WV in a post, or even alluded to it. Other than a attempt at humour on my sig, So can you point out where i have bragged? And FYI lots of people in shaughnessy and WV are hurting as well
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 09:12 PM

Lets not derail the thread any further I'm sure any back and forth personal business can go in to a pm right.
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:19 PM

Why aren't there simultaneous protests happening in Washington, DC, where the legislators allow these crooks to do their thing?


Apparently the protests are supposed to spread throughout the country and I hear there are protests in the big Canadian cities as well. Can anyone confirm?

EDIT: nvm it was confirmed above. Thanks

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:20 PM

People wearing Guy Fawkes masks should be shot at, everything else about this protest I approve of.
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:21 PM

Lets not derail the thread any further I'm sure any back and forth personal business can go in to a pm right.


come on, the popcorn is almost ready....i wanna see a show
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:42 PM

in so many of these videos you can see people typing/blogging away on their macbook pros and iphones. it's absolutely ridiculous.

it's fashionable protesting without any discernable objective

having michael moore there is also rich, as his earnings from last year alone probably match the collective wealth of the protest group
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:57 PM

<br />in so many of these videos you can see people typing/blogging away on their macbook pros and iphones. it's absolutely ridiculous. <br /><br />it's fashionable protesting without any discernable objective<br /><br />having michael moore there is also rich, as his earnings from last year alone probably match the collective wealth of the protest group<br />

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Whats your point?? sucessful people arent allowed to fight/protest for ordinary folks>???

must someone be on welfare/minimum wage to be able to protest against all the corruption??

Everyone is fed up from all these parasites who are absolutely destroying the world economy, and ruining the lives of millions for their own personal greed....
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Posted 02 October 2011 - 11:19 PM

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Whats your point?? sucessful people arent allowed to fight/protest for ordinary folks>???

must someone be on welfare/minimum wage to be able to protest against all the corruption??

Everyone is fed up from all these parasites who are absolutely destroying the world economy, and ruining the lives of millions for their own personal greed....


uh huh

and next time you go to protest the corporate world, make sure you flash your levis and apple products for the camera to see. then let michael moore shove his fat face into the camera to give a speech about how he identifies with the common man, despite owning an apartment in manhattan worth more than you or i will make in our lifetime

yeah, corporatism is bad, and america needs to re-think some things... but this is going about things the wrong way, and it won't achieve anything

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 11:35 PM

in so many of these videos you can see people typing/blogging away on their macbook pros and iphones. it's absolutely ridiculous.

it's fashionable protesting without any discernable objective

having michael moore there is also rich, as his earnings from last year alone probably match the collective wealth of the protest group


Young people simply spend their money differently. The reason older people don't use Apple products is simply because they're older. At least that's my guess on things.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 09:23 AM

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Whats your point?? sucessful people arent allowed to fight/protest for ordinary folks>???

must someone be on welfare/minimum wage to be able to protest against all the corruption??

Everyone is fed up from all these parasites who are absolutely destroying the world economy, and ruining the lives of millions for their own personal greed....


The thing is there is no real demands from these guys
Its just hey you greedy jerks pay more taxes

if they were organized and had some reasonable demand's or arguments presented they would be taken seriously but they don't.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 10:46 AM

I agree about michael moore, but as far as wearing levis and typing on apples.... Kinda reminds me of the electric car.

It was ready to go, widely used in trials, liked and loved, and then killed off by guess who? Watch the death of the electric car if you want tye answer. I think that is what it is called, on phone. Will link later.

You want to talk about regulation? small businesses with the mission of sustainable production etc fair wages are rrgulated and taxed higher than those who have the money to hire corporate lawyers to take advantage of tax loopholes.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 11:32 AM

I find it hilarious that a lot of these protestors and supporters of these protestors support Ron Paul, who wants a huge reduction in taxation and regulation of industries.



Sure, but he also voted against EVERY bailout package given to industry. While he would want to create a positive business enviroment should a business go bankrupt they would get nothing more than a "sucks to be you" from him. He's actually been super consistant on that.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:46 PM

The first real sparks of a revolution? I guess we'll see...
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:58 PM

Iphones are just as affordable as other cell phones on the market. I don't see any relevance. For many people their cell phone is their only phone.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:19 PM

The bankers have just as much clout on the socialist Left as on the big business Right, see the false Cold War for example.

I think the idea is to actually *encourage* socialism among the common folk, by which the elite will further their grip on society, while making the poor majority feel included.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:50 PM

Iphones are just as affordable as other cell phones on the market. I don't see any relevance. For many people their cell phone is their only phone.


It's about them complaining about how bad businesses and corporations are, even though their entire lifestyle is based on products and services which those same companies provide for them.

Plus, if they really want to be protesters and revolutionaries, put your money where your mouth is. If you hate Starbucks, Nike, Apple, Telus and Ford.... don't drive your little Ford Focus, while sporting the latest Nike runners, then heading down to the nearest Starbucks for a 5 dollars venti coffee to sit and chat with your friends meanwhile tweeting and surfing the internet with your iPhone from Telus to plan your next "big move" in your "proletariat struggles" with your wannabe socialist/communist friends.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:58 PM

It's about them complaining about how bad businesses and corporations are, even though their entire lifestyle is based on products and services which those same companies provide for them.

Plus, if they really want to be protesters and revolutionaries, put your money where your mouth is. If you hate Starbucks, Nike, Apple, Telus and Ford.... don't drive your little Ford Focus, while sporting the latest Nike runners, then heading down to the nearest Starbucks for a 5 dollars venti coffee to sit and chat with your friends meanwhile tweeting and surfing the internet with your iPhone from Telus to plan your next "big move" in your "proletariat struggles" with your wannabe socialist/communist friends.


I think it's a little bigger than the "Hipster" wannabe's you're describing there.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 05:15 PM

Wow...the video of the rich ba$tards mocking the protesters...just a microcosm of the reality that is America.


Reminds me of in the movie Marie Antoinette except the angry mob in the movie wants the heads of the royalty.


If things get really bad, I wouldn't doubt if Americans stormed their own Bastille. Of course there is prison that is the American counterpart to the Bastille but I mean that in a sort of breaking point that marks the start of revolution.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 05:50 PM

The bankers have just as much clout on the socialist Left as on the big business Right, see the false Cold War for example.

I think the idea is to actually *encourage* socialism among the common folk, by which the elite will further their grip on society, while making the poor majority feel included.


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Posted 03 October 2011 - 10:31 PM

This whole movement was started by Adbusters, a Vancouver-based pro-environment, anti-consumerist group. Makes me proud!
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 10:57 PM

This whole movement was started by Adbusters, a Vancouver-based pro-environment, anti-consumerist group. Makes me proud!

Vancouver also gave the world Greenpeace.

Be doubly proud.
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Posted 03 October 2011 - 11:15 PM

This whole movement was started by Adbusters, a Vancouver-based pro-environment, anti-consumerist group. Makes me proud!

Vancouver also gave the world Greenpeace.

Be doubly proud.


To balance it off, Vancouver then gave the world yoga pants.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 11:42 PM

To balance it off, Vancouver then gave the world yoga pants.

And EA no?
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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.

Logic at its finest.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 11:59 PM

Michael Moore does get around dosn't he?  He is so good at promoting himself.

He is a hyprocrite though, he attacks capitalism, yet he benefits from capitalism by making money off his books and movies.  I wonder how much he makes and if he is a multi-millionare.

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 12:07 AM

Michael Moore does get around dosn't he?  He is so good at promoting himself.

He is a hyprocrite though, he attacks capitalism, yet he benefits from capitalism by making money off his books and movies.  I wonder how much he makes and if he is a multi-millionare.

Sure does. I'm no fan of Moore as I find he spends most of his time self-aggrandizing.

However it raises a good question. Is it wrong to criticize and profit at the same time?

I have no doubt that those who "have not" can be the biggest hypocrites when it comes to equality. So does you wealth level determine what issues you can raise?

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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.

Logic at its finest.




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