diesel_3 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The reason vancouver is considered a goalie graveyard is because we get reasonably to immensly talented goalies, expect them to win the jennings, vezina, and stanley cup in the first 2 years they are here, and as soon as that doesnt happen, the fans/media belittle them and show absolutely no confidence therefore turning them into head cases and inevitably ruining their game. Luongo is not the cure to the goalie graveyard, but he will be the greatest goalie destroyed by fans that expect way too much. Since luongo has gotten here he has won the jennings, been nominated for the vezina twice, and been to the stanley cup finals, and yet he gets the most disrespect. There is no one else to blame but the fans/media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityinFlames Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Okay Cloutier and Weekes couldn't bring a sandwich from the kitchen to the living room without dropping it on the floor. So I never expected them to bring the cup to Vancouver, and also half of those goalies who came to Vancouver were well out of there prime, and era. Potvin, Essensa, Irbe were all stand up goalies, and when they came to Vancouver it was 10 years later when the stand up era was the way the game played. Also if you really looked at in a more constructive way, you would see that maybe getting a greater value trade out of Loungo now then wait 2 to 3 years when he's passing his prime and end up with a 2nd round pick or a 3rd rounder. I would rather have Cory any day of the week, he's young, he has the passion, and he never started his career with two of the worst teams. I think if were going to win the cup Cory is the better choice, he already knows what is expected of himself and what the fans expect. He out plays Loungo most nights; this is a guy who will sit for a large of amount of games and gets thrown into action and just out performs everyone else. If you did that with Loungo he would end up shelling out 15 + goals and blame it on bright lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewah Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 But we are the reason Luongo is a head case(example last night) You dont think Cory would become one as well?? unless he can manage a 82-0 season he will get the same treatment as luongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hongcouver Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 <br />But we are the reason Luongo is a head case(example last night) <br />You dont think Cory would become one as well?? unless he can manage a 82-0 season he will get the same treatment as luongo<br /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MashedBananas Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 OMG the list is painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn antoski Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 <br /><br /><br /> you missed my point. kirk never had an 82-0 season and we still loved him for the reasons i mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 How are we the reason he's a headcase? Having a good mental state is part of being an elite athlete, if Luongo is an elite athlete he shouldn't care about what the fans think. Tim Thomas went through a similar situation and never ever let it get to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thomas didnt get blamed for losing every game of the season/playoff's of course he is mentally tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raph Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Arturs Irbe was awesome. Can't believe Burkie let him go just cuz he was short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 hey luongo haters remember these guys Dan Cloutier Félix Potvin Kevin Weekes Sean Burke Alex Auld Bob Essensa Johan Hedberg Corey Hirsch Arturs Irbe Mika Noronen Maxime Ouellet Garth Snow Kay Whitmore bunch on ungrateful fans are dumping on luongo hes is the elite goaltender that we were crying about for so many years nonis made the biggest trade in canucks history LUONGO IS A GOD ...... VANCOUVER went from a GOALIE GRAVE YARD to a GOALIE HEAVEN and those fans at the game, only time they made any kind of noise at all was to hate on luuuu HOW BOUT CHEERING DURING THE GAME WHEN UR DOWN AND GETTING BEHIND UR TEAM, instead of eating sushi in ur company seats and to all the people saying trade luuuu .....ok fine lets say it happens schnieder and lack combo means the canucks will still lack a cup at the end of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnowsHockey Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 People don't complain when Luongo has a good game. People only complain when he is bad. And when he plays bad, he is no btter than any of those goalies. However when he plays good, he is better than all of those goalies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippgunn Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 cause both those goalies today if they were starters could even take us to the playoffs? Their is a reason gillis is not waiving or doing anything to luongo because come off season Gillis might still want a job with vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterin Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 hey luongo haters remember these guys Dan Cloutier Félix Potvin Kevin Weekes Sean Burke Alex Auld Bob Essensa Johan Hedberg Corey Hirsch Arturs Irbe Mika Noronen Maxime Ouellet Garth Snow Kay Whitmore bunch on ungrateful fans are dumping on luongo hes is the elite goaltender that we were crying about for so many years nonis made the biggest trade in canucks history LUONGO IS A GOD ...... VANCOUVER went from a GOALIE GRAVE YARD to a GOALIE HEAVEN and those fans at the game, only time they made any kind of noise at all was to hate on luuuu HOW BOUT CHEERING DURING THE GAME WHEN UR DOWN AND GETTING BEHIND UR TEAM, instead of eating sushi in ur company seats and to all the people saying trade luuuu .....ok fine lets say it happens schnieder and lack combo means the canucks will still lack a cup at the end of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 He won't have one if Lou continues to suck and MG insists on playing him all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmy Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 kirk mclean was loved by canucks fan and always will be because he is not a head case like luongo. Heres why we loved kirk: kirk never gave up on the puck and let people just score 3 or 4 consecutive goals in a period. kirk never asked for a salary contract that front loaded him with 10 million dollars per year (overpayment). kirk never expected other goalies to "pump his tires". kirk didn't have problems with breakaways. Cory schneider is a lot like Kirk and will be even better in today's NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naslund.is.king Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 You know what I hate idiots that come on here and start talking about a graveyard for goalies..Its not a graveyard if you play like your paid too. Really who the heck are you Luongo is what he is and what he thinketh.. He just not playing with technique and he was the lousiest goalie out there. Really for a big man he should be able to stand there and stop everything look at Lundqvist he was standing all night... what really makes me ungratefull is seeing you on here being ungrateful...idiots are born everyday and your no exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enterin Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 You know I dont think anyone was complaining on here about Luongo. Fans at the game did because they saw 4 goals slip my Luongo like he was not even there and you know they paid alot of money to go to the game. Defense or goalie fault it doesnt matter it seemed like he had no game so the fans reacted which they should it s their money plus it doesnt change anything for Luongo he still gets paid and for 12 years...but the fans lost thiers. Most fans dont care if we lose as long as we are in every game...yes we would like to win every game we also know it is not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampage Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The fanbase is getting ridiculous. The slow starts happen EVERY October and we do fine after. Luongo's going to do one of those 3 straight shutouts streaks in November and then everybodys going to be on his sack again only to demand a trade after 1 bad loss. Its sad the fans did this same thing to Naslund. Naslund brought the Canucks out of the dark days and then when his career started to slow down the fans got on him because of his contract and now fans are doing it to Lu even tho Lu just had one of the best statistical years last year, got within 1 game of the cup. and he still gets treated worse than Dan Cloutier...cmon Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsy Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I don't think Luongo is a terrible goalie, I just think he's playing terribly right now, and has a penchant for terriblly inconsistent play in the SC playoffs. If he does not shape up in the next 2-3 months, he needs to be replaced. This team is about accountability, and the ones who shows that they can perform will play and stay with the team - not whoever is considered to be the starter and has a large contract. Meanwhile, fans really need to start being positive and helping out the team throughout the game. Like it or not, our support (or lack thereof) affects how well our team plays. You can see it with the teams we play against and their crowds. 7th man does exist, so are we ready to help push the canucks that extra game to win it all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckfanzz Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 ok for 1 luongo gets paid millions a year to win. he doesnt get paid to let in goals. his GAA SINCE THE FINALS IS 5GAA per game. he has givin up on av. after that 8 goal game remember pat roy for the habs that coach would not pull him then when he did he told the coach im done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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