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Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:15 AM

Ryan would be a great with with Kesler and probably the Sedins as well.

Ballard + MayRay + 1st rounder this year + Tanev.
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:40 AM

If the Ducks are really Trading Bobby Ryan where will he end up which team will Trade for him.?

Jonas Hiller isn't doing well. I can't remember his exact numbers, but he's around a .900 save percentage with allowing nearly 3.00 goals a game.


— We keep hearing that Buffalo Sabres goalie Ryan Miller is out with a concussion and wouldn’t mind if the Sabres traded him. His wife is a California-based actress, but the Los Angeles Kings have Jonathan Quick between the pipes. The Anaheim Ducks have Jonas Hiller as their starter and the San Jose Sharks seem happy with Antti Niemi in net. Buffalo needs a high-end centre, but they have holes elsewhere, too. I don’t see a market in California for Miller, whose game has dropped off after his 2010 Olympics heroics in Vancouver.

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If Miller truly wants out, Hiller & Ryan for Miller & Leino? Anaheim gets the all Finnish line Leino-Koivu-Selanne & a major upgrade in net, Buffalo gets a major upgrade on the wing and a bent but not broken Hiller. Draft picks to offset?

Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 10:46 AM

Probably too hard to get...what do they need anyway? Top 6 forwards? Prospects? D? Guessing not goaltending, they have Hiller.
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:02 AM

Schneider + Ballard + Hodgson + 1st doesn't intrigue Anaheim at all?

Not saying I would, just saying it's the pieces it may take IMO.


I don't think that's a good idea either. That's waaaaay too steep. We need every D we have so getting rid of Ballard isn't good for us. We'd need a goalie in return because I don't think Lack or Climie should be thrown into the NHL yet (although Lack is looking pretty good) and we haven't got nearly enough depth in prospect pool to let go of our top prospect and 1st rounder.

I doubt the ducks would take this trade but we'd also have to consider our cap if we were to get Bobby (natural right winger, right handed and big! OMG That'd be great for the top line). To free up the cap space with out hampering ourselves too much in the above areas, we'd need to get rid of Booth. He takes up just under 4.2M and Bobby's cap hit is 5.1. Boothy and Raymond packaged with a 3rd rounder might interest them but I don't see that happening either. Raymond is a question mark with his injury and MG would look like a dink for getting rid of two guys before even finishing a season with the Nucks (Sturm being the other).

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:04 AM

Burrows Hodgson and a 2nd would might get it done, perhaps a Defense prospect might need to be added. I would do it in a heart beat. Other roster moves might be needed due to cap considerations but it could be done.


Burrows is unmoveable. His cap hit to points ratio is way too good to get rid of.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:26 AM

bobby ryan to new herseyforzach pariseRyan is from the new jersey area...gives more speed to the anaheim top line

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:27 AM

What would it take to pry Ryan and Fowler out of Anahiem? That way we get a superstar power forward and address our need for a puck moving defenseman. I realize that would probably be near impossible to pull off though.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:44 AM

How about Ballard, Burrows, and Luongo for Ryan and Fowler? The Ducks get a #1 goaltender, a puck moving dman who can play more mins in Anahiem on his natural side, and a great forward in Burrows. We get a power forward to play with the Sedins or the Kes line and a puck moving dman who can play on his natural side with big mins in top 4.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:50 AM

How about Ballard, Burrows, and Luongo for Ryan and Fowler? The Ducks get a #1 goaltender, a puck moving dman who can play more mins in Anahiem on his natural side, and a great forward in Burrows. We get a power forward to play with the Sedins or the Kes line and a puck moving dman who can play on his natural side with big mins in top 4.


A) The Ducks get a #1 goalie? So what is Hiller? He's a pretty darn good goalie... Doubt Lou would waive his NTC for that.

B) Schnieder is playing great and I'm a huge fan of his but a 4 game hot streak is not proof of a proven #1

C) Let say MG feels Schnieder is a good enough #1, who would be #2? Eddie Lack? Not sure he or Climie have had enough NHL experience to be a solid contributor. Are we going to dump on Schnieder like Calgary does on Kipper? Again, he hasn't got enough starts under his belt to indicate he's ready for that.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:54 AM

what are ANA's most pressing needs?

secondary scoring and defense im guessing

They got scoring right now, future is a little up in the air once Teemu and Koivu both leave though.

I was talking with a guy at work the other day how the Ducks need a franchise tough D-man (no offence to Fowler, guy will be a studly offensively but doubt he will be a guy you depend on to shutdown other teams in dieing minutes). I suggested with Weber being trade bait possibly and Nashville wanting a top end forward (presuming of course) then that could be a pretty decent trade. Allows Nahsville to sign Suter, get a legit 1st line scorer that they can build around and Ducks can get that big D-man in which they have needed since departure of Pronger/Niedermyer.
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 12:00 PM

<br />A) The Ducks get a #1 goalie? So what is Hiller? He's a pretty darn good goalie... Doubt Lou would waive his NTC for that.<br /><br /><img src='http://content.forum...efault/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' /> Schnieder is playing great and I'm a huge fan of his but a 4 game hot streak is not proof of a proven #1<br /><br />C) Let say MG feels Schnieder is a good enough #1, who would be #2? Eddie Lack? Not sure he or Climie have had enough NHL experience to be a solid contributor. Are we going to dump on Schnieder like Calgary does on Kipper? Again, he hasn't got enough starts under his belt to indicate he's ready for that.<br />

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Hey chong69 I hear ya. Hiller is a #1 goalie although I feel Lu would be an upgrade for them. We would have to shop around for a solid backup to support Schnieder I guess if this did actually happen which probably never would.

Also one plz question chong69. How can I respond to your post the way you did to mine? Im still fairly new to cdc, thx.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 12:15 PM

They got scoring right now, future is a little up in the air once Teemu and Koivu both leave though.  I was talking with a guy at work the other day how the Ducks need a franchise tough D-man (no offence to Fowler, guy will be a studly offensively but doubt he will be a guy you depend on to shutdown other teams in dieing minutes).  I suggested with Weber being trade bait possibly and Nashville wanting a top end forward (presuming of course) then that could be a pretty decent trade.  Allows Nahsville to sign Suter, get a legit 1st line scorer that they can build around and Ducks can get that big D-man in which they have needed since departure of Pronger/Niedermyer.



As much as I would love to have Weber or Ryan on the Canucks, I feel like this is a perfect trade for both Anaheim and Nashville.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 12:24 PM

What would it take to pry Ryan and Fowler out of Anahiem? That way we get a superstar power forward and address our need for a puck moving defenseman. I realize that would probably be near impossible to pull off though.

Kesler + Edler probably the only thing Ducks would accept.
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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:10 PM

They got scoring right now, future is a little up in the air once Teemu and Koivu both leave though.

I was talking with a guy at work the other day how the Ducks need a franchise tough D-man (no offence to Fowler, guy will be a studly offensively but doubt he will be a guy you depend on to shutdown other teams in dieing minutes). I suggested with Weber being trade bait possibly and Nashville wanting a top end forward (presuming of course) then that could be a pretty decent trade. Allows Nahsville to sign Suter, get a legit 1st line scorer that they can build around and Ducks can get that big D-man in which they have needed since departure of Pronger/Niedermyer.

I could see something like this happening. Nashville would jump at the chance to land a verifiable top-line forward locked up for four years at only five-and-a-half mil per. They'd save salary - a couple mil plus per year over Weber.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:15 PM

Kesler + Edler probably the only thing Ducks would accept.

What are you talking about!?!?

There's not a GM in the league who wouldn't take Kesler over Ryan - straight up!

And really, in our situation, I'd loathe even trading Edler straight-up for Ryan. We just don't have any young D of his calibre coming up. We are far deeper on offense.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:25 PM

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Ryan

Damn.... That second line will run over our opposition.

If only we had the pieces to make this deal go through.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:54 PM

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Ryan

Damn.... That second line will run over our opposition.

If only we had the pieces to make this deal go through.

Well, we probably do... ...but I don't want to trade Hodgson or Edler, even for Ryan.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:05 PM

Offense isn't our problem right now.... it seems that everyone was happy when we got Booth.... guess not.

Depth on Defense is probably the thing that we need the most right now :)

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:07 PM

Rangers: Dubinsky for Ryan?

Montreal: Plekanec for Ryan?

Pittsburgh: Staal for Ryan?

St. Louis: Oshie/Berglund for Ryan?

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:19 PM

If he's available, MG should be all over this. A Powerforward and a game breaker on our 2nd line with Kesler *drools*

Raymond+Ballard+Tanev+1st Would that seal the deal? Or do we have to add in Shroeder??

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Ryan
Higgins - Hodgson - Hansen
Malhotra - Lappiere - Weise

Edler - Hamhuis
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Our bottom pairing and depth on D will take a little hit, but we would be lighting teams up with that top 9.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:21 PM

i like the above proposal

keep tanev give them schroeder?

Edited by ERIK, 29 November 2011 - 02:24 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:34 PM

It would take a lot to get a guy like Ryan from Ana but they also need defence so I would assume a major D-man would be a part of the package.

Ryan's a guy where all 29 other teams would take a look at it, wonder what the Canucks would give up for him(not saying it would happen, just wondering how he would look with the Sedins or Kess)

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:35 PM

i like the above proposal

keep tanev give them schroeder?


I dont think they'll be satisfied with just Ballard, they are preety thin on the blueline.
If they do the deal, they could like this.

Raymond - Getzlaf - Perry
Selanne - Koivu - Blake
Hagman - Cogliano - Belesky
Parros - Gordon - Smith-Pelly

Fowler - Visnovsky
Ballard - Bauchemin
Sbisa - Tanev

Not a bad looking defence :towel:

Now we just need MG to sell his Koolaid to the Ducks GM

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:45 PM

they would want edler....hate to trade him but if we got ryan we get a young power forward sniper...hard to find those

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:58 PM

they would want edler....hate to trade him but if we got ryan we get a young power forward sniper...hard to find those


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Yeah and it is equally as hard to find a young defenseman of Edler's caliber. At the moment, we need Edler more than we need Ryan.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:59 PM

they would want edler....hate to trade him but if we got ryan we get a young power forward sniper...hard to find those

Edler's are just as hard to find, if not moreso.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:16 PM

It would take a lot to get a guy like Ryan from Ana but they also need defence so I would assume a major D-man would be a part of the package.

Ryan's a guy where all 29 other teams would take a look at it, wonder what the Canucks would give up for him(not saying it would happen, just wondering how he would look with the Sedins or Kess)


My guess is that should Ryan be moved, the price would be similar to what Richards/Carter got. The rumor is that the Ducks want to cut some salaries and gain some depth. If Kesler/Edler aren't pieces Gillis would move, it would be at least Hodgson, Raymond, and a 1st.

That's actually not an awful price, but the Ducks could probably get more...but I wouldn't waste Ryan on Kesler's line. Ryan would give the 1st line a dynamic and cycling threat that it needs.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:17 PM

Heard them talking on 1040 that the Maple Laffs appear to be in the hunt...

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:19 PM

Edler's are just as hard to find, if not moreso.


Moreso. It's a simple matter of numbers. Six defencemen versus twelve forwards dictates that supply and demand reality. How many 50+ point defencemen with 100mph slapshots and devastating bodychecking capability are there in the NHL? Five? I could think of 20 powerforwards quite easily:

1. Nash
2. Perry
3. Getzlaf
4. Iginla
5. Ovechkin
6. Thornton
7. Clowe
8. Kopitar
9. Hossa
10. Kesler
11. Jeff Carter
12. Umberger
13. Backes
14. Chris Stewart
15. Ladd
16. Oshie (arguably)
17. Smyth
18. Franzen
19. E. Staal
20. J. Staal
21. Malkin

Etc, etc...

Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:24 PM

Moreso. It's a simple matter of numbers. Six defencemen versus twelve forwards dictates that supply and demand reality. How many 50+ point defencemen with 100mph slapshots and devastating bodychecking capability are there in the NHL? Five? I could think of 20 powerforwards quite easily:

1. Nash
2. Perry
3. Getzlaf
4. Iginla
5. Ovechkin
6. Thornton
7. Clowe
8. Kopitar
9. Hossa
10. Kesler
11. Jeff Carter
12. Umberger
13. Backes
14. Chris Stewart
15. Ladd
16. Oshie (arguably)
17. Smyth
18. Franzen
19. E. Staal
20. J. Staal
21. Malkin

Etc, etc...

Chara
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Letang
Byfuglien
Suter
Keith
Edler

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