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Mark Messier believes he's still owed money from his days with the Canucks


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#211 goalie13

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:39 PM

An update:

@JSportsnet: As we prepare for NYR-NJ, MMessier's arb case vs Canucks continues in NY. Hearing is in front of independant arbitrator. Messier claims his 3 year contract with Van had a provision in it that gave him a bonus if team was sold for a profit. In question is profit of the transaction from John McCaw to Aquillinis. BBurke,Canucks GM at end of Messier's contract on stand yesterday


What a bizarre clause to have in a player's contract. Even if it was there, you would think it would have some sort of time limit on it. Even if the value of the franchise went up between when Messier was signed and when McCaw sold the team, I don't think it was due at all to Messier's presence.
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#212 nucklehead

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:03 PM

Im no lawyer either but i think when you buy an organization you also assume there liabilities as well.
Im confused by why its taken so long for messier to figure this out. I didnt like him while he was here, before he was her or since.


I see you haven't read any of the older posts. How any one could have even considered bringing him here in the first place defies sanity. At least McCaw isn't at the helm any longer after that debacle.
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:11 AM

I hated Messier before I read this thread, I hate him even more right now! This is disgusting waiting this long to go after the Canucks whom he did NOTHING for. Disgusting!

So if you signed a contract wiith a stipulation on the the team being sold for a profit that you would receive some kinda percentage that would be worth millions you would say " ah shucks that was so long ago just forget about it now" .

I dont think so !!
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#214 TOMapleLaughs

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:27 AM

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"Ha-ha-ha, kid! I'm taking your chips and eating them too!"

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Mark Messier is a bloody disgrace.


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#215 canucktican

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:28 AM

Messier can go suck a toad!

#216 Snake Doctor

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:10 PM

No one is hated in Vancouver more than Mark Messier.
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#217 nuck nit

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 12:42 PM

In the real world phsycopaths like Messier would be doing hard time.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 01:15 PM

Really!?!? Good luck trying to collect...

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 02:54 PM

Money sucking ___!
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Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:33 PM

Other than the fact he is hated ij Van, does anyone have any information that actually allows for an educated opinion. I suspect this will be handled by the arbitrator and until then structure without real info.

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 10:01 PM

if its in his contract its in his contract. having said that the owner must be really retarded to put that in, he's owed what he's owed even if he is a douche

#222 oldnews

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 11:43 PM

bet you can't eat just one

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:54 AM

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 06:59 AM

So basically messier owned part of the Canucks franchise. What an messed up contract to give a player, blame they guy who came up with the contract.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:27 PM

No one is hated in Vancouver more than Mark Messier.


Canuck fans, we hate all-star, hall-of-famers!

And I wouldn't want it any other way!

Don't take anything I say seriously! EVER!


#226 Tearloch7

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 01:29 PM

Two words for Messier .. _______ OFF!!! .. that is all .. :emot-parrot:

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#227 Raspberries

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:31 PM

why is Messier still polluting our message boards?

#228 King_Canuckian

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:02 PM

I guess it all depends on how that clause was worded. But in my mind (which has extremely limited legal knowledge), the contract has long expired, he should get nothing.

FFS... 13 years later, and he's STILL screwing us over.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 05:10 PM

What a strange clause. I would think that that provision would only be applicable during the term of his contract, as he may presumably be considered part of the assets to the company. Actually they should look at the termination terms ie. all terms of the agreement cease upon the termination date or as otherwise stated herein. There should actually have to be a provision in the agreement that would specifically state that the bonus sale clause survive the termination of the agreement for it to still be in effect after the contract has been terminated or expired, etc, which I don't think any lawyer/company would agree to. Actually I don't believe that this clause would be in a player's contract. This seems like a hoax. Why would a solitary player benefit from the dealings of a company, when execs don't even get that kind of bonus and they are more intricately involved with the successes of a company moreso then a seasonal player.

Edited by Mauii, 27 May 2012 - 11:32 AM.

"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil."

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 08:06 PM

I think that he has it backwards.

He owes us money for paying to watch his atrocious play and heartless leadership.

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 09:54 PM

No one is hated in Vancouver more than Mark Messier.


Exactly, so there's nothing to lose.

And Messier makes a real good trollface.
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Posted 26 May 2012 - 10:14 PM

That money sucking mmmm......mmm........mmmmm.......MESSIER!!!!!!!

Not only was he a minus player, he has disgraced the number 11.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 07:38 AM

Mark Messier is an egotistical fool.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 08:23 AM

So, wouldn't the clause in his contract end when the contract is bought out?

Did the sale happen in the time that he was under contract by the Canucks?



If a player has a clause in their contract that gives them a bonus if the team makes the playoffs, but is bought out halfway through the season, then does he still get a bonus when the team makes the playoffs?

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