CanucksKickAzz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 BC had banned body checking for kids under 11. Good idea, or bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js604 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I would say yes because I think kids are more prone to injury (especially brain injury) but I have no substantial evidence to back that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Was I really that young? I remember when they had us conditioning each other for body checks/introducing slap shots to the game with no regulations. I ended up against a guy like a foot taller than me and at least 80 lbs heavier, the result? Broken collarbone, dislocated shoulder, fractured wrist. Should they have it banned? No, better regulated though, at least for the start of it. I know you always won't be hit by people your own size/weight but at least for the start of it so they know to a better extent how to react/defend themselves properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Is this stemming from the story that was on the news this morning? I thought that ban was specific to rec and house leagues, but not the rep leagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Bad idea. Kids need to learn how to take a check at the earliest possible age. Much better to be hit by a 75lb youngster who is still learning to skate than a 12 year-old who is twice as big and has 10x the skating ability. IMO, this will cause more injuries, not less. It will just be the older kids instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Actually it's always been like that, hitting has always started at Peewee. You're probably talking about the ban on bodychecking in all house leagues, just in the PCAHA, not the entire province of BC. You'll still be able to hit in rep leagues though. I play so I'm kinda pissed, but it doesn't really make a difference to me since this is my last year of minor hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacare Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 start teaching them early how to take and give them ie protecting themselves but ban it. the risk of brain injuries is too great. we're talking about risk of becoming developmentally disabled early in their life for the 99% that won't make it as a professional hockey player. exposing them to that kind of risk is just monumentally stupid. don't mess with the developing brain of children. injuries could leave them with lifelong problems with rage, memory, adhd, social interaction, sleep, substance abuse, etc. there's a life after hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Jack Flash Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Actually it's always been like that, hitting has always started at Peewee. You're probably talking about the ban on bodychecking in all house leagues, just in the PCAHA, not the entire province of BC. You'll still be able to hit in rep leagues though. I play so I'm kinda pissed, but it doesn't really make a difference to me since this is my last year of minor hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNNComplex Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 From what I understood on Breakfast Television earlier today, hitting was banned for all HOUSE players under 20. Rep players are still able to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostViking Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I think it makes some sense, in that if players aren't going to be transitioning into higher levels of hockey, might as well help them avoid injury (at least at the younger ages, I see nothing wrong with older kids getting physical). The idea that they have to learn to take hits at a young age is a moot point, if the player in question is just going to stop playing at some point during their teen years. There are so many people who simply stopped after graduating from high school, there can be no argument made that those kids needed to learn to take hits, and I think that covers most young hockey players. However, I would feel bad for those who play in house for a while and then want to transition to rep, it will be much tougher for them, they will be at a disadvantage. Also true for anyone who want to keep playing hockey as an adult. These players (a much smaller number) do need to learn these skills, and not every kid gets to play rep. I also feel bad that this may squash some kid's dreams prematurely. The idea may become, that if you play house you'll never learn to hit, and therefore as soon as the parents put their kid in a house league, that kid knows he'll never make it, as opposed to being able to hold onto that dream for a few more years before they realize just how good you have to be to make it in hockey. On the other hand, maybe giving so many kids a healthy dose of reality (the 99.9% of you won't make it anyways, don't destroy your body trying argument) may be good for some kids, being grounded in reality does have its advantages, such as counteracting the effects of over-competitive parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheiderfanforlife Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 What happens to the kid called up from House to go play Rep? First shift the kid takes he is going to get rocked and not know how to protect himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Was I really that young? I remember when they had us conditioning each other for body checks/introducing slap shots to the game with no regulations. I ended up against a guy like a foot taller than me and at least 80 lbs heavier, the result? Broken collarbone, dislocated shoulder, fractured wrist. Should they have it banned? No, better regulated though, at least for the start of it. I know you always won't be hit by people your own size/weight but at least for the start of it so they know to a better extent how to react/defend themselves properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Your basically throwing away your opportunity to teach kids at an early age how to take and hand out hits. My belief is that the only way to change the way players think is at the grass roots level, By training coaches of young players. What better way too bring respect back into the game, get them when they are easily programmable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Actually it's always been like that, hitting has always started at Peewee. You're probably talking about the ban on bodychecking in all house leagues, just in the PCAHA, not the entire province of BC. You'll still be able to hit in rep leagues though. I play so I'm kinda pissed, but it doesn't really make a difference to me since this is my last year of minor hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 <br /> <img src='http://content.forum.canucks.com/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' / Sorry, I don't mean to be a jerk but I find it funny that a guy who is still playing minor hockey is saying "it's always been like that". It most certainly has not. I played my first competetive game of hockey at age 5, over 45 years ago. There were no rules in place at the time that prohibited bodychecking. We all learned how to give and take a hit and were ready by the time opponents became bigger, stronger and faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldGinger Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 It is a terible idea to ban hitting altogether for house hockey. Their argument might be it only takes one hit, which is true, but they are essentially restricting those kids to only play non contact hockey. If the first game of contact hockey id when they are around 20 years old they will end up injured within the first couple games. When you start hitting, a lot of people stop paying attention for a second and get hit when they aren't ready for it. Ex. in the first game I ever played I took a pass while looking behind me and guess what, I ended up on my back. Fortunately 12 year olds don't hit that hard and I learned a lesson the hard way ie. NEVER take a pass like that, and I never did again.Now imagine that happens at 19 instead. Instead of lying on the ice for 30 seconds after getting the wind knocked out of me, I'm probably ending up in the hospital. Hitting should be put in as young as possible.On a related note, has anyone else noticed that when the analysts go over a 'dirty hit' they never put any blame on the player getting hit? Now, most of tese hits are dirty but sometimes the player puts themselves in a really bad spot. I know some people will say you shouldn't hit a player when they're in that position, but then why wouldn't everybody just skate around looking down at the puck if you couldn't get hit when your head is down? It is way easier to handle the puck that way?There are kids watching this and all they hear is it's all the hitter's responsibility (or at least 90% anyway). I was reminded about this today when I saw the Willie Mitchel hit on Jonathan Toews. I remember some people saying that hit should be illegal because he couldn't defend himelf. That's BS all he had to do was skate with his head up and he could have gone avoided the hit. All the open ice hits you're ever going to see are with the guy getting hit not looking, because they are too hard to make otherwise. That is what they should be pointing out instead./rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Icarus Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It's actually for kids under the age of 13: I play in the Fraser Valley and next year all house teams are ho-hitting, and body-checking begins at Bantam level. Apologies for bumping an old thread, but I have to write a persuasive essay for school and am looking for material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph. Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Bad idea. Kids need to learn how to take a check at the earliest possible age. Much better to be hit by a 75lb youngster who is still learning to skate than a 12 year-old who is twice as big and has 10x the skating ability. IMO, this will cause more injuries, not less. It will just be the older kids instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 All they need to do is allow any legal hit where the opponent is trying to acquire possession of the puck on the play.players get injured on hits where the force of the impact is the primary intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Show the clip of Daniel on Keith and title it "How not to protect yourself" He looked like an amateur hunched over and day dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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