CanucksJay Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I am going to put myself out there and make the thread. Raymond? Do we really want him? Pros: Fast Skater, Defensively Reliable, Plays PK Cons: Poor Vision, Doesn't use his team mates, Afraid to go to the net, Weak along the boards, Physically Weak. Ever since the Canucks upgraded 2nd line wing from Raymond to Booth, I finally see a player that I had hoped Raymond would eventually become. Someone who will utilize his speed to go around the defencemen on the outside and still have the balls to cut hard to the net. After the acquisition of Booth, we saw a slight improvement in Raymond's play as he was finally going into the tough areas. I was personally hoping that the healthy competition had finally lit a spark under Raymond and he was ready to change his style of play which would be more beneficial to the team. After many months, I see Raymond's style of play will never change. It is what it is. Raymond will 1) Go around the defencemen on the outside, circle BEHIND the net and then a) Pass to the near side d-man Make an ill-advised cross ice pass to the other d-man which will get tipped or intercepted. (The redeeming fact of this error is that Raymond has already circled the net and is skating back up towards the blueline so he has had a head start on the back-check) 2) Raymond will also ALWAYS shoot on a 2-1. The goalie might as well not even worry about the 2nd forward and just play Raymond. Goalie should also make sure he's standing in the middle of the net because the puck is going to hit him in the crest like a bulls-eye What Mason needs to understand is, He would be making a million more per season if he 1) Went around the d-man on the outside and then CUT to the net which would lead to drawing a hooking penalty or a goal by him OR creating a rebound chance for Hansen or Coho. This is what the 2nd line is now doing to create goals with Kes, Higgins and Booth. If Raymond does this, his line will be more productive and he will actually be using his speed in a productive manner. Now here's the real question. At a modest 2.55M and going into RFA this summer we know exactly what Raymond brings to this team. Is Raymond worth keeping as a 3rd liner for the playoffs on a Cup Contending team or, is someone in the system already more than capable of filling his role and is Raymond expendable in order to acquire additional help or upgrades in other positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Originality...........you really need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Kesler #17 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 use your own words next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Hodgson Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 That is your first post and it better be your damn last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It's truly amazing how much fan attention one player can get.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Everyone knows Raymond's problems. There's a reason his name has been coming up so often for trade rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimike Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 yes and one reason speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Words too small, didn't read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everybody Hates Raymond Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Give Raymond more time. He has a useful set of skills and playing with a center like Cody Hodgson, who is still developing, can be beneficial for him as well. I agree that he is underperforming, but constant pressure from the fans isn't going to make it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RK17Forever Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 First post. No one reads first posters who start a thread. CanucksJay? Do We Really Want Him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 It would be awesome if Raymond's career goes on the same trajectory that Burrows' did when his thread was created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 You couldn't use different words? At all? Seriously? Do us all a favor and don't post anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugli Fruit Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 You're being overly critical and it suggests that you're biased against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexluthor Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 With his speed, he should be drawing a lot of penalties from the opposition. But this never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 With his speed, he should be drawing a lot of penalties from the opposition. But this never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Also You're being overly critical and it suggests that you're biased against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigshooter Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Give Raymond more time. He has a useful set of skills and playing with a center like Cody Hodgson, who is still developing, can be beneficial for him as well. I agree that he is underperforming, but constant pressure from the fans isn't going to make it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 You couldn't use different words? At all? Seriously? Do us all a favor and don't post anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 First post. No one reads first posters who start a thread. CanucksJay? Do We Really Want Him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Singh Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I've seen a lot of threads listing his pros and cons already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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