Ghostsof1915 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If Raymond stays (And I don't see him going anywhere as he's not really attracting trade talk). In the offseason he should work out with either Kesler or the Sedins or get help from Rod Brind'Amour and work like a fiend on his core strength. I think his problems are correctable. He's not going to be a bodybuilder but he could stand to pack on some more muscle and work on his stability and strength. His biggest flaw is he's takes nothing to knock off the puck He needs someone to work with him, maybe sacrifice some top end speed for being more solid on the ice. Learn to protect the puck more and just drive to the net. His speed should draw more penalties. But does he want to put in that level of effort to improve his play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If Raymond stays (And I don't see him going anywhere as he's not really attracting trade talk). In the offseason he should work out with either Kesler or the Sedins or get help from Rod Brind'Amour and work like a fiend on his core strength. I think his problems are correctable. He's not going to be a bodybuilder but he could stand to pack on some more muscle and work on his stability and strength. His biggest flaw is he's takes nothing to knock off the puck He needs someone to work with him, maybe sacrifice some top end speed for being more solid on the ice. Learn to protect the puck more and just drive to the net. His speed should draw more penalties. But does he want to put in that level of effort to improve his play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Hodgson assisted on the Higgins goal (Edm) but other than that you're correct I was using the Score Mobile app and didn't realize that the column was +/- and not points. Thanks for the correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Wow, now people complain that he doesn't shoot enough? I thought his biggest problem was shooting too much and not passing enough. I probably watch Raymond the closest out of everyone on the team (maybe Ballard) because they always take so much heat, and Raymond played very solidly vs Edm. Yes, he did not get a shot on goal, but he made a number of good passes that resulted in a scoring chance. Why don't you watch him closer next time and see how the guy plays? People generally tend to remember negative things more than positive things if you're biased against the person, and that's how it is with a lot of Canuck players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Well, that wide open empty net fan sure leaves a lot to be desired. It really could have happened to anyone but unfortunately for Raymond this will only add to the ever rising tide of disdain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMacNamedDre Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Raymond for Parros in a heartbeat at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyville88 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Anyone see him whiff on the puck in the 3rd period? So disappointing that a player with his talent level choses to showcase it so infrequently. It may be enough for him to just be in the NHL after his injury, and I'm glad he's recovered from it. But we are a team where if every player isn't contributing we aren't utilizing our full potential. To be happy to be here isn't enough anymore. He has to be willing to contribute to the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The more i watch him the more convinced i am he's got to go. Just killing the 2nd line and isn't the right fit for the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverStyle Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Raymond has been going through a rough patch all season long, it seems like. Maybe he is not fully recovered from his back injury, or he is not in game shape yet or something. The coaching staff really should sit him a couple of games. Maybe that will light a fire under his butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_trevor16 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Time for AV to scratch him......I mean he did with Ballard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Raymond has been going through a rough patch all season long, it seems like. Maybe he is not fully recovered from his back injury, or he is not in game shape yet or something. The coaching staff really should sit him a couple of games. Maybe that will light a fire under his butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understand Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Shhh.....close this thread....we don't want to let the scouts of other teams notice how "good" Raymond is........ Someone go start a "Raymond is awsome" thread pls......maybe this will help getting rid of him by next Monday...hopefully... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arman_Canucks21 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 TRADE RAYMOND ALREADY. UGGGGGGHHHHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorseGem2007 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 The more i watch him the more convinced i am he's got to go. Just killing the 2nd line and isn't the right fit for the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keslerian one Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Imagine if we had ___________, instead of Raymond? What a great second line that would be. Insert someone in the blank space. And ask yourself what a great second line that would be. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Precisely, and now he is on a line where he isn't the primary shooter. Kesler and Booth are so what's Raymonds' job? To use his speed on the perimeter and look to feed his linemates. Undeserved "whipping boy", for the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 At the pace Andrew ebbett was scoring with low minutes he would of outscored Raymond significantly for someone who gets top 6 minutes . Check the stats. That's not right. Look at when opposing teams have a solid top 4 D. Shut the Sedins and Kesler and you have cut the offense by at least half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilly Canuck Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Im getting increasingly frustrated with his game. Doesnt use his speed effectively, doesnt work hard enough, doesnt hit, gets knocked off the puck easily, always stays on the perimeter taking bad shots and doesnt share/pass the puck when players like Kes and Booth are playing with him. I wish he played in the minors at the beginning of his career because he could have really benefitted from it and would be a great player for the Canucks right now. If he gets traded I have a feeling we're going to regret it it but thats okay because its good for him and I know he wouldnt have developed into a star if we kept him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocular Patdown Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Always been supporting Raymond, but it's getting hard these last few weeks. Constantly giving the puck up, when he loses the puck, gives up the battle. Doesn't fight for the puck back. Goes to the outside, but then loses the puck. If he atleast went to the outside and created some room then it would be great, but just losing the puck in the corner, come on Mase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gumballthechewy Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Im getting increasingly frustrated with his game. Doesnt use his speed effectively, doesnt work hard enough, doesnt hit, gets knocked off the puck easily and always stays on the perimeter taking bad shots. I wish he played in the minors at the beginning of his career because he could have really benefitted from it and would be a great player for the Canucks right now. If he gets traded I have a feeling we're going to regret it it but thats okay because its good for him and I know he wouldnt have developed into a star if we kept him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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