Baggins Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 To sum up: When we win it's the players. When we lose it's the coach. Blah, blah, blah. Nothing new here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost dog Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Sometimes a new coach adds change and excitement and the canucks sort of need that this year.... look at how Pens won the cup with a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck_trevor16 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 nothing new to see here......a win everyone happy....a loss......fire the coach trade sedins, etc.........I dont think think every poster in here is a real fan at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Duck Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Is this a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I think we need to hire someone who speaks impeccable English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 nothing new to see here......a win everyone happy....a loss......fire the coach trade sedins, etc.........I dont think think every poster in here is a real fan at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivingLikeLarry Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Canucks are being held back by coaching imo. AV's system he uses is getting too easy to coach against for other teams, especially when they decide to play disciplined, there goes our gameplan of winning by our power play. How many times have we seen AV get outcoached in the playoffs? If Burr didn't score that goal last year AV wouldn't be here. Kesler also carried our team through the Nashville series. Our team is one of the most skilled in the NHL they aren't winning because of AV. I mean if he's not going to give the best rookie of the month more ice time especially when the Sedins look dead tired and not there like last night, atleast put him in the shootout where he has been our most effective shooter, but no, not even after his breakaway goal last game. He doesn't even run the power play Newell Brown does. His job is to get the team ready to play a full 60 mins and play good 5 on 5 hockey, but it seems our team never plays for a full 60 and we are one of the worst teams 5 on 5, how is that possible with all the skill and speed we have? One of the worst coaches I've ever seen at changing his gameplan on the fly, I could probably do a better job. Think about it, if the canucks got a new well respected coach, Ballard,Hodgson,Kesler and some other players will all have some more jump to their game, atleast that's how I see it. Anyways that's my rant, I guarantee we would of made it to the finals with any coach last year if we still had Brown running the power play, hopefully Gillis can get some help at the trade deadline because obviously he won't fire AV this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Canucks are being held back by coaching imo. AV's system he uses is getting too easy to coach against for other teams, especially when they decide to play disciplined, there goes our gameplan of winning by our power play. How many times have we seen AV get outcoached in the playoffs? If Burr didn't score that goal last year AV wouldn't be here. Kesler also carried our team through the Nashville series. Our team is one of the most skilled in the NHL they aren't winning because of AV. I mean if he's not going to give the best rookie of the month more ice time especially when the Sedins look dead tired and not there like last night, atleast put him in the shootout where he has been our most effective shooter, but no, not even after his breakaway goal last game. He doesn't even run the power play Newell Brown does. His job is to get the team ready to play a full 60 mins and play good 5 on 5 hockey, but it seems our team never plays for a full 60 and we are one of the worst teams 5 on 5, how is that possible with all the skill and speed we have? One of the worst coaches I've ever seen at changing his gameplan on the fly, I could probably do a better job. Think about it, if the canucks got a new well respected coach, Ballard,Hodgson,Kesler and some other players will all have some more jump to their game, atleast that's how I see it. Anyways that's my rant, I guarantee we would of made it to the finals with any coach last year if we still had Brown running the power play, hopefully Gillis can get some help at the trade deadline because obviously he won't fire AV this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Were you ever held back in school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodzilla131 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Oh no, the canucks are in 2nd place in the west! Oh no, they're only 3rd in the whole NHL! And there's only 31 games left to find there game for the playoffs! The season's lost! AV, Gillis....OFF with there heads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfhard Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Vigneault = top 10 coach The Canucks = top 3 team Weakest link scenario. Problem is, there's nobody better than him available right now. So it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 So apparently you know more than the whole Canucks organization and MG? This is really not the case. AV does a fantastic job behind the bench, I was once a hater too, but I realized that AV took us to the SCF last year, he has won a Jack Adams award, and seems to be a great guy. He knows how to use his players, and where to use them. He knows the right tactics/strategies. He expects a lot from our squad, probably nothing less than a Stanley Cup. You've got it wrong , AV is a great coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 One of the worst coaches I've ever seen at changing his gameplan on the fly, I could probably do a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z0rg Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 "but it seems our team never plays for a full 60 and we are one of the worst teams 5 on 5, how is that possible with all the skill and speed we have?" Get your facts straight... we are currently in 6th place for the best 5-5 goals for/against ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froskii Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Their not winning????? What??? i must be reading the standings wrong...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Lesnar Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It's not 1 game, I've been unimpressed with AV since last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Duck Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I guess u were unimpressed with the fact that the Vancouver Canucks went to game 7 of the SCF last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackyo23 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I don't think he's a bad coach but I do think he get's a little too much credit and there are some much better ones out there. I'm not gonna place all the blame on Coach V but the Nucks have been playing like crap ever since the Boston game and have only really had one significant win streak this year and what was it like 5 games or something? Sure they've managed to squeeze out some wins but they sure as hell do not look like a deep playoff team at this point, let alone a Stanley Cup winner. Something definately needs to be tweeked and we're running short on time to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedBeats™2.0 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Kesler developed all on his own? Kesler thought he belonged on the first line in his first season. He had a massive ego problem. Trevor Linden was a godsend for him. Kesler should not be an assistant captain - his play warrants it, but he is a terrible diplomat and can't speak to officials - not yet anyhow. He gets credit for being the engine that drives the Canucks, but that is a massive overstatement. He needs to stop displaying his frustration with officials, put his ego in the back seat and simply play hard. When he is not playing well, his attitude gets in the way of his work ethic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mj vic Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 You're trying really hard to discredit Alain Vigneault's role in the development of Kesler, Burrows, and Hodgson. You're teetering very closely to "Vigneault is bad at developing players because I said so." The love for Sergei Shirokov is equally ridiculous. Daniel and Henrik Sedin became point-per-game players under Alain Vigneault. Alex Edler became an All-Star defenceman under Alain Vigneault. Jannik Hansen became a NHL player under Alain Vigneault. Chris Higgins reestablished his NHL game under Alain Vigneault. Maxim Lapierre reestablished his NHL game under Alain Vigneault. Cory Schneider became a top goaltending prospect under Alain Vigneault (by giving him starts against powerhouses to showcase his talents and easing him in as a NHL goaltender). Coincidence maybe? But you can't completely discredit Vigneault by saying things like, "Oh, the Sedins are special players." "Edler a special player" "Hansen developed worked hard." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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