SimplyHockey Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 <p><p> I don't think he's a bad coach but I do think he get's a little too much credit and there are some much better ones out there. I'm not gonna place all the blame on Coach V but the Nucks have been playing like crap ever since the Boston game and have only really had one significant win streak this year and what was it like 5 games or something? Sure they've managed to squeeze out some wins but they sure as hell do not look like a deep playoff team at this point, let alone a Stanley Cup winner. Something definately needs to be tweeked and we're running short on time to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 AV treats men like men - nothing wrong with that. He also doesn't tolerare half-assed efforts, and doesn't pick favorites, but he is not an intolerant, ballbusting Mike Keenan type. There is only one guy on the team who needs to be 'grabbed by the reigns' and I'm not going there. The personality of the team suits AV's style. He adapted his coaching style to the type of team Gillis wanted to build. He has done a great job. The impatience here is unwarranted. Blaming AV for the SCF loss is ridiculous. Get over it - he is here to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsy Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I like how the OP nonchalantly does not mention the domination of the sharks, or the fact that the coach brought the team to the 7th game of the stanley cup final. Pure media, or media-inspired. So Kesler did it all eh, and coach did nothing in Nashville. Same with Chicago. It was Chicago somehow playing super disciplined, and not Bolland's return/inspired play and definitely not the retaliation for Seabrook that allowed Chicago to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffin Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 If it's not Luongo then it's the coaching lol, good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackyo23 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 <p><p>Including the Boston game they have collected 14 out of a possible 20 points. In other words they have won 70% of the total points possible. If they continue along that line for the rest of the year they will accumulate another 43 points and when added to the 67 they have tallied so far this season, they are on track for a 110 point season. That my friend is only seven points short of the total they managed to get all of last year which won them the Presidents Trophy, their closest rival being the Capitals at 107 points.But I am optimistic and suggest that if they remain healthy, over the next 31 games that remain, they will win somewhere in the vicinity of 23-25 of those games. Voila - where might that place them in the standings against all other teams in the league. I will bet very close to the top and what is going for them is more than half of them will be played in front of their home crowd and that favors them. Perusing the Nucks schedule, they only play Detroit, Chicago, LA and St Louis one more time and Nashville twice. Without sounding too presumptuous about the future, those teams are their closest competitors in the conference. Detroit has a much tougher row to hoe during their final 30 games of the season. It may also be that they are at their greatest momentum (peak) at this juncture of the season and like last year with the Canucks, to peak at this time in the season may just be a tad to early before the playoffs for them.We just got to have faith in our boys and please no bad Karma LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux-luvr Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Imagine if you were a hawks fan, lost 4 in a row, lost that badly to edmonton. You would want the heads of every player + the coach eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmbraceTheHate17 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Opmac: "Daniel and Henrik Sedin became point-per-game players under Alain Vigneault. Alex Edler became an All-Star defenceman under Alain Vigneault. Jannik Hansen became a NHL player under Alain Vigneault. Chris Higgins reestablished his NHL game under Alain Vigneault. Maxim Lapierre reestablished his NHL game under Alain Vigneault. Cory Schneider became a top goaltending prospect under Alain Vigneault (by giving him starts against powerhouses to showcase his talents and easing him in as a NHL goaltender). Coincidence maybe? But you can't completely discredit Vigneault by saying things like, "Oh, the Sedins are special players." "Edler a special player" "Hansen developed worked hard." What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux-luvr Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Talk to me after the playoffs bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacvan Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 So coaching the Canucks to their first ever presidents trophy, and with in 1 game of the cup is really really bad eh? Sure he has his flaws so does every body else. He cannot manually control the team if they are under performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkpoet Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Care you describe the system for an uninformed fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Canucks are being held back by coaching imo. AV's system he uses is getting too easy to coach against for other teams, especially when they decide to play disciplined, there goes our gameplan of winning by our power play. How many times have we seen AV get outcoached in the playoffs? If Burr didn't score that goal last year AV wouldn't be here. Kesler also carried our team through the Nashville series. Our team is one of the most skilled in the NHL they aren't winning because of AV. I mean if he's not going to give the best rookie of the month more ice time especially when the Sedins look dead tired and not there like last night, atleast put him in the shootout where he has been our most effective shooter, but no, not even after his breakaway goal last game. He doesn't even run the power play Newell Brown does. His job is to get the team ready to play a full 60 mins and play good 5 on 5 hockey, but it seems our team never plays for a full 60 and we are one of the worst teams 5 on 5, how is that possible with all the skill and speed we have? One of the worst coaches I've ever seen at changing his gameplan on the fly, I could probably do a better job. Think about it, if the canucks got a new well respected coach, Ballard,Hodgson,Kesler and some other players will all have some more jump to their game, atleast that's how I see it. Anyways that's my rant, I guarantee we would of made it to the finals with any coach last year if we still had Brown running the power play, hopefully Gillis can get some help at the trade deadline because obviously he won't fire AV this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dildo Faggins Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 There's a lot of things that AV's done lately that I dont like. For one, giving Cody such little ice time, I mean WTF? I read yesterday he has the second lowest ice time out of all the rookies in the NHL. With the way he is producing and how he got awarded rookie of the month, it makes you wonder WTF is going on there. Then there's his preference for playing Luongo all the time, and not giving Cory enough games. And when games go into a shootout, why the hell cant we put Schneider in goal? Luongo totally sucks ass in SO's. He puts the team at a big disadvantage when he's in net for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksboy Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 every team is bound to have a little slump here and there, we are doing fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler0023 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 LOL, this thread ... .. ...I guess it's more refreshing then Trade Kesler/Trade Luongo/Ballard and Raymond and 1st for Weber or Perry/Mason Raymond : Do We Really Need Him?/Manny Malhotra sucks/Malhotra's stats ...oh wait, nevermind, we've been down this road too, PLENTY of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 No I was not just talking about last game, but he should of split them up earlier and put Hodgson (Mr. Clutch) in the shootout to try and get 2. Sometimes a new coach adds change and excitement and the canucks sort of need that this year.... look at how Pens won the cup with a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Canucks are being held back by coaching imo. AV's system he uses is getting too easy to coach against for other teams, especially when they decide to play disciplined, there goes our gameplan of winning by our power play. How many times have we seen AV get outcoached in the playoffs? If Burr didn't score that goal last year AV wouldn't be here. Kesler also carried our team through the Nashville series. Our team is one of the most skilled in the NHL they aren't winning because of AV. I mean if he's not going to give the best rookie of the month more ice time especially when the Sedins look dead tired and not there like last night, atleast put him in the shootout where he has been our most effective shooter, but no, not even after his breakaway goal last game. He doesn't even run the power play Newell Brown does. His job is to get the team ready to play a full 60 mins and play good 5 on 5 hockey, but it seems our team never plays for a full 60 and we are one of the worst teams 5 on 5, how is that possible with all the skill and speed we have? One of the worst coaches I've ever seen at changing his gameplan on the fly, I could probably do a better job. Think about it, if the canucks got a new well respected coach, Ballard,Hodgson,Kesler and some other players will all have some more jump to their game, atleast that's how I see it. Anyways that's my rant, I guarantee we would of made it to the finals with any coach last year if we still had Brown running the power play, hopefully Gillis can get some help at the trade deadline because obviously he won't fire AV this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpworsley Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 elite teams blow people out (bruins) and go on 17 straight home game winning streaks (wings). we have fallen to a middle of the playoff spot pack this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedinstwin Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Winningst coach of our franchise history. Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opmac Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 If he won't, I'll gladly provide words for his mouth.The system is called passive agressive.You see this kind of thing in basketball a lot. It's just strategic defensive containment at the expense of physical punishment and some good 'ol elbow grease and oompahWhatever it is that's going on right now. It better get fixed before the playoffs. How we're still hanging around 1st place is amazing considering how crapulent we've played the last few weeks. Heck. Maybe Bitz will be some magical mental catalyst for the team.. (weirder things have happened) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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