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Michael Gillis is grossly overrated

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This how a successful team is built today, Lemieux.

The Canucks have a window of opportunity, with the core that they have now, to compete for a cup. "Immediate gains", as you have put it, are exactly what they need right now, in the form of another reliable defender. They need to add smallish pieces rather than huge ones. I honestly don't see where MG is "sacrificing the future".

Ehrhoff was a good offensive player. I'm not sorry to see him struggle in Buffalo. I'm not sure how "valuable" he really is or was.

Gillis is building his team well, IMO.

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I concede that Hamhuis is a good signing, but he did it while offering a ridiculous $1.5M contract offer to Willie Mitchell, the horse. He unfortunately suffered a concussion while playing like a warrior, and they treated him like sh*t. Could've at least helped contain some of the bad Bruins in the playoffs. Now, that role belongs to Andrew Alberts, which is scary to say the least.

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I dunno....I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. He hasn't necessarily done anything really spectacular...certainly nothing to warrant genius accolades....but he has managed to help develop a winning culture amongst the club and done a pretty good job convincing certain core players to stay with the club for less than market value.

The solution he comes up with to deal with the Schneider situation is going to do a lot to define how successful he's been as a GM.

I think this post is pretty much bang on.

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I concede that Hamhuis is a good signing, but he did it while offering a ridiculous $1.5M contract offer to Willie Mitchell, the horse. He unfortunately suffered a concussion while playing like a warrior, and they treated him like sh*t. Could've at least helped contain some of the bad Bruins in the playoffs. Now, that role belongs to Andrew Alberts, which is scary to say the least.

Mitchell was offered a 2 year $7M dollar contract by LA. Why would Mitchell stay here for $1.5?

Willie was coming off of a long concussion layoff and a $1.5M risk was all MG was willing to take at the time. Can you blame him? In hindsight, keeping Mitchell would have been great but, with what LA offered, There was no way he would have stayed here.

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Wait a minute....Luongo isn't worth 5.2 M a year...? Have you had your coffee yet?

Also Gillis didn't make Ballard and Booths contracts. He traded for them, and who cares? We had the cap space and it's not your money so what's wrong with you?

So many things wrong with this thread.

It's not the cap hit, rather the term, 12 years. That's far to long of a contract, in fact MG always spoke out against those long term contracts.

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Why are you complaining? And why are you complaining about the GM of all things.. We are 2nd in the West and 3rd in the league....

Luongo has a cap hit of 5.2, Bryzgalov 5.6 .. You can compare his contract with the elite's in the league and you'd realize that he is actually somewhat of a bargain.

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It's not the cap hit, rather the term, 12 years. That's far to long of a contract, in fact MG always spoke out against those long term contracts.

There are 'outs' in the contract. It's not like the contract is written in stone.

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Mitchell was offered a 2 year $7M dollar contract by LA. Why would Mitchell stay here for $1.5?

Willie was coming off of a long concussion layoff and a $1.5M risk was all MG was willing to take at the time. Can you blame him? In hindsight, keeping Mitchell would have been great but, with what LA offered, There was no way he would have stayed here.

:towel::canucks:

It was obvious that the Canucks needed DEFENSIVE help. If he had been offered 6mil for 2 years I am sure Mitchell would've stayed. It wasn't that big of a risk considering he was only 32 and the contract was for only two years. Instead, he went for an undersized Ballard who was making more than 4+ for multiple years, never having played a playoff game. This to me, is a bad decision. Ballard was sitting in the box in the playoffs. Mitchell would've been at least a top four, along with Ehrhoff, Edler, Hamhuis (and when healthy, Salo). It was obvious though, that Salo couldn't keep the Bruins out of the dirty area.

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Higgens, Hamhuis, Hodgson, Re-sign sedins, Schneider etc. Its not so much what you are paying a player these days but it is about how the amount you are paying them fits into your cap budget. So for example say if the Canucks had 6 million room at the cap. would you consider it a mistake to blow that money on a single player? If that is the type of player your team needs to send you over the top then he is worth maxing out your cap.

So to answer your question if that is what it is No I do not think Gillis is over rated. He takes risks and his rewards seem to be out weighing his losses so far.

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Like your namesake, Mario, you muddle facts and opinions to suit your agenda .. MG is doing a very good job at building and maintaining a competetive team who can win it all in any given year for the forseeable future .. trolling MG is so yesterday .. ALL GM's are susceptable to making an error .. the only people who never make any mistakes are those who never do anything .. MG is right much more often than he is wrong .. so shut it unless you can substantiate your goofery with "facts" .. :P

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Mitchell is NOT the answer .. ANOTHER left side defenseman .. JUST what we need .. coming off a consussion .. if MG had signed Willie and Willie had crumpled at the first head shot, Lemieux and the rest of his ilk would have been calling for MG's head .. furter waste of ink .. :D

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