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OK....um....Gillis Retained the Sedin's, Burrows, Kesler, Bieksa, Brought in Hamhuis, Booth (he's been great btw), Higgins, Lappy, Ehrhoff, and even Malhotra. Sundin, while overpaid, seriously helped this team, Don't you dare say anything about Pavol, and Ballard is getting better. BTW Luongo is the best goalie we ever had. Cory is amazing, but Lu is better, and would you rather have Marc Chouinard, or Aaron Miller?

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This guy is grossly overrated.

He has come up with bad contracts after bad contracts.

Overpaying Ballard, Booth, Sundin (thank goodness he did not take the 2-year $20mil contract), Demitra (RIP), and Luongo. These are good players, but definitely not at the salary that they are making. Now they are really stuck with Luongo, an older goalie with more and more mileage. This guy was overused in Florida, and you just don't see him playing at the same level 2 or 3 years down the road. This situation has caused the whole Schneider thing. Schneider looks like a young solid number one that could carry the Canucks into the next decade. He has solid moves, unlike the Sieve Cloutier. He's a calming presence. Because of the no-trade clause to Luongo, Schneider has to be moved.

People defend Gillis and say that he had got the Canucks into the finals. The main pieces, i.e. Kesler, Sedins, Edler, Bieksa, Salo, Burrows were all pieces from the past regimes. The only guy that Gillis could truly claim to be a valuable asset was ehrhoff.

Gillis is really sacrifing the future of the team for immediate gains. It's really sad to see.

And what great things have you done with your life?

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This guy is grossly overrated.

He has come up with bad contracts after bad contracts.

Overpaying Ballard, Booth, Sundin (thank goodness he did not take the 2-year $20mil contract), Demitra (RIP), and Luongo. These are good players, but definitely not at the salary that they are making. Now they are really stuck with Luongo, an older goalie with more and more mileage. This guy was overused in Florida, and you just don't see him playing at the same level 2 or 3 years down the road. This situation has caused the whole Schneider thing. Schneider looks like a young solid number one that could carry the Canucks into the next decade. He has solid moves, unlike the Sieve Cloutier. He's a calming presence. Because of the no-trade clause to Luongo, Schneider has to be moved.

People defend Gillis and say that he had got the Canucks into the finals. The main pieces, i.e. Kesler, Sedins, Edler, Bieksa, Salo, Burrows were all pieces from the past regimes. The only guy that Gillis could truly claim to be a valuable asset was ehrhoff.

Gillis is really sacrifing the future of the team for immediate gains. It's really sad to see.

Hamhuis, Lapierre, Wiese and Higgins?

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realize MG biggest talent ....getting to the core of what the teams needs to be successful..... one of the keys that MG realized and targeted...in his first go...... FO's we were 24th in the league.. he realized you needed to have puck possesion in the new nhl

he gets. ryan johnson,demitra and sundin...........besides their other abilities.... our FO's went to 5 th overall

as for Sundin... here we had Henrik as a top center..... but we were weak in the number two......morrison,,,,kes was our #3 guy shutdown man...played more than morrison...". anyzways when you looked at availiable centerman... there wasnt much choice unless you look at resigning ( injured at the time?) BMO.....was the best choice unless you wanted to trade away core peices or try to hit a homerun with an elite center in sundin( and he was solid at FO's too)

FO's were turned around....he focused on more balanced scoring and a PP that was 18th before he showed up 17 th the first year

Made the ehrhoff trade and Sammuelsson....with the peices we reached 6th overall.... pp was good now

but our PK was dreadful 18th overall and worst in playoffs.... and the main reason LA hung around.... and the main reason Chi was able to beat us....we outscored chi 2-1 evenstrength but lost the pk battle.....chi outscored us 2-1 in special teams

enter malholtra, hamhuis,ballard.......... and later higgins,lapierre to soldify our FO's ,center depth but more importantly our PK brought it to 2nd overall

see the overview.....year one fix FO's. check ......year two fix PP check..... year three fix PK....... year four depth on 2nd line booth and resign higgins.................. AND add the following piece at________ and_________ at trade deadline

so beyond the players brought in.. there was a bigger picture wanting to be achieved .... this year is filling the gap that is missing from getting that one extra win............... probably size up front and a solid dman

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This guy is grossly overrated.

He has come up with bad contracts after bad contracts.

Overpaying Ballard, Booth, Sundin (thank goodness he did not take the 2-year $20mil contract), Demitra (RIP), and Luongo. These are good players, but definitely not at the salary that they are making. Now they are really stuck with Luongo, an older goalie with more and more mileage. This guy was overused in Florida, and you just don't see him playing at the same level 2 or 3 years down the road. This situation has caused the whole Schneider thing. Schneider looks like a young solid number one that could carry the Canucks into the next decade. He has solid moves, unlike the Sieve Cloutier. He's a calming presence. Because of the no-trade clause to Luongo, Schneider has to be moved.

People defend Gillis and say that he had got the Canucks into the finals. The main pieces, i.e. Kesler, Sedins, Edler, Bieksa, Salo, Burrows were all pieces from the past regimes. The only guy that Gillis could truly claim to be a valuable asset was ehrhoff.

Gillis is really sacrifing the future of the team for immediate gains. It's really sad to see.

I guess it didn't hurt to lose Hamhuis in the finals....

Oh wait.

And Sundin also played no part in Kesler's development,

It was just a coincidence that Kesler, who had a career high of 37 points, scored 59 points the year Sundin came and then had 70+ points the next two seasons...

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This guy is grossly overrated.

He has come up with bad contracts after bad contracts.

Overpaying Ballard, Booth, Sundin (thank goodness he did not take the 2-year $20mil contract), Demitra (RIP), and Luongo. These are good players, but definitely not at the salary that they are making. Now they are really stuck with Luongo, an older goalie with more and more mileage. This guy was overused in Florida, and you just don't see him playing at the same level 2 or 3 years down the road. This situation has caused the whole Schneider thing. Schneider looks like a young solid number one that could carry the Canucks into the next decade. He has solid moves, unlike the Sieve Cloutier. He's a calming presence. Because of the no-trade clause to Luongo, Schneider has to be moved.

People defend Gillis and say that he had got the Canucks into the finals. The main pieces, i.e. Kesler, Sedins, Edler, Bieksa, Salo, Burrows were all pieces from the past regimes. The only guy that Gillis could truly claim to be a valuable asset was ehrhoff.

Gillis is really sacrifing the future of the team for immediate gains. It's really sad to see.

This mindless drivel is a +15?! I think your inept opinion is grossly overrated...

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The only mistake MG has made in his tenure here was trading Grabner for Ballard, but his thought process made perfect sense at the time (although I didn't agree with it): he projected Raymond to be a future 60-point 2nd line player and felt Grabner was expendable, so traded him for something our team desperately needed, a solid top-4 defenceman who is rarely injured.

What he didn't predict was how defencemen playing in low-pressure situations like in Phoenix and Florida usually struggle with higher expectations like in Vancouver (see Bouwmeester and Kaberle). Basically, a defenceman playing lots of minutes on a very bad team isn't necessarily a good defenceman on a great, deep team. This is more the scouts fault than MG's, because its the scouts responsibility to watch the games and decide how well the invididual is playing. They did a good job with Hamhuis, possibly because he was so close to us in the West, but we didn't get a very good scouting report on Ballard and as a result he has struggled.

That being said, Ballard isn't that much of a bust, I'm just disappointed we had to trade Grabner instead of Raymond, who I always felt was a premier sniper in this league. Nevertheless, everything else MG has done for this team has been directly to aid a fault in our team and has paid huge dividends. MG > God.

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This guy is grossly overrated.

He has come up with bad contracts after bad contracts.

Overpaying Ballard, Booth, Sundin (thank goodness he did not take the 2-year $20mil contract), Demitra (RIP), and Luongo. These are good players, but definitely not at the salary that they are making. Now they are really stuck with Luongo, an older goalie with more and more mileage. This guy was overused in Florida, and you just don't see him playing at the same level 2 or 3 years down the road. This situation has caused the whole Schneider thing. Schneider looks like a young solid number one that could carry the Canucks into the next decade. He has solid moves, unlike the Sieve Cloutier. He's a calming presence. Because of the no-trade clause to Luongo, Schneider has to be moved.

People defend Gillis and say that he had got the Canucks into the finals. The main pieces, i.e. Kesler, Sedins, Edler, Bieksa, Salo, Burrows were all pieces from the past regimes. The only guy that Gillis could truly claim to be a valuable asset was ehrhoff.

Gillis is really sacrifing the future of the team for immediate gains. It's really sad to see.

By your own admission all of these great players were brought in before Gillis. Yet I dont recall the Canucks getting to the finals with these same players before Gillis, do you? In fact they couldnt get past the 2nd round.

Gillis has come in and done what needed to be done. He saw the issue with our blue line always being depleted because of injury so he went out and made sure it wouldnt be an issue. You can easily sit there it your high chair and knock Gillis for Ballards contract, but the fact is Gillis did not make that contract. Ballard and his contract were acquired in a trade. On top of that who could know that Ballard would under perform to the level he has? Are you trying to say you did?

Gillis managed to bring in Samuelsson, Ehrhoff, Hamhuis, Malhotra, Lapierre, Booth and Ballard.

When the team needed defence he went and got the best free agents available. When they needed another center he got Malhotra (its no coincidence Kesler emergence as a star happened to come when the defensive specialist arrived). This city was clamoring for a big body to play next to Kesler, he went and got Booth for some spare parts.

He also resigned Kesler, Burrows (4 year, 8 million.contract), negotiated the deal with the Sedins (a steal a 6 mil per) and got Schnieder signed to his current contract.

This team couldnt cut it before Gillis came in.The core might have already been here but he kept it intact and at a very managable Cap hit. He also brought in the depth, and that is what got us to the finals.

GM's are not psychics. They make mistakes, all of them. But Gillis has made far more good moves than bad ones, and at least he has made moves to address the issues that this team has had. So yes he inherited some great talent, but what exactly did Nonis manage to do with it?

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such a brutal op.. dont need to say anything as much has already been said in 9 pages, but seriously, MG has done a terrific job.. hes said that he will always do what he thinks is best for the team.. a team that has brought in new players that have helped our team to become one of the top 3 teams in the nhl and keep them there.

he may not be perfect but hes been very good for this hockey club.. just another example of people who dont know or see how good they have it..

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Sorry man, but you are also forgetting the signing of torres last year and the acquisition of lappy and higgy at the trade deadline. With out these guys I dont think we make the finals.

Plus sometimes the best things a GM can do is to stay put. He could have given up on hodgson, traded cory for next to nothing. He kept Bieksa when everyone was calling for a trade at the beginning of last season.

Gillis has also created a team and environment players want to come too. players take less money to come here, and take less money to stay here.

Sorry OP, if the minus was still in use i would gladly give you one.

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Ironically, Mario Lemieux is one of the most over-rated players of all time.

Mr. Oldnews, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Mr. Oldnews, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Ahahaha!! You should have given me a minus - as a tribute to Mario = Floater = Cherry-picker!

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