lexluthor Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpAQu5y4oO0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPO-sDWI45I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmRJ7XFs9C8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ID8LSbT-k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I like Kassian but I really think we overpayed for himdless I do believe that CoHo deserved more minutes and is likely going to be a top 6 forward in Buffalo (which is what he deserves). As . We should have gotten someone by the likes of Nash for Cody Hodgson (Coho+Ballard + Raymond ) Regarsoon as I saw the other trade I knew COHO was gonna be outta here. Tough TOUGH day to be a Canucks fan. If we were going to trade Coho from the beginning we should have gotten way more for him. Possible Franchise centre and future captain. Ugh this sucks! Anyways welcome to the team Kassian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Your Huckleberry Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I honestly felt sick when I found out Hodgson was traded, and I don't even feel like I care about the NHL anymore. You can say I'm taking the loss of Cody too hard, but he was everything you want in a person, as well as a terrific hockey player. It was so easy to like the guy, I don't think people have felt like this about a Canuck since Linden. It's not even just the loss of Cody that hurts, it's also the fact that Kassian is the complete opposite of him. Kassian may turn out to be a fantastic power forward, but he's not the same kind of person that Cody was because of his apparent attitude and work ethic issues. I can kind of see why GMMG made the trade, but I won't feel the same way about the Canucks as I did before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apricot Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 If you're bummed out by this trade, that's because you are making a direct comparison between Hodgson and Kassian. Yes, it hurts to lose a potential franchise center, but you need to recognize that Zack Kassian is not coming over from Buffalo to replace Cody - we did that with a previous deal for Sami Pahlsson. With Pahlsson, we are going back to the conventional shutdown 3rd line. This allows us to give those sheltered offensive minutes that we gave to Cody by having Kesler play the entire game in the shutdown role to Kesler - by having Pahlsson take half of Kesler's shutdown minutes. Without doubt, Kesler will outproduce Cody with the same offensive minutes - that's what happened last season when we got Manny to take some of Kesler's defensive minutes before he got injured. Now, we have 2 lines that can take Kesler's shutdown minutes, meaning Kesler will really be able to focus on offense. With this formula, we went to game 7 of the SCF despite both Manny and Kesler getting injured. With another addition of Pahlsson (and having Booth instead of Samuelsson and Luongo playing the way he is this year), we are better equipped than last year. Now let's focus on Kassian. What do we have in this kid? A big, rugged power forward that can shoot, skate and play. Here's my take though Canucks fans - dont, please don't, expect Kassian to be our "answer" to Boston, or as our "Lucic". This kid just turned 21 and this is his first season in the pros against men. No matter how big you are, you are going to be intimidated, not intimidating, by the other big experienced players in this league. Buffalo had the unfair expectations for this kid to be their answer to Boston - how do you expect a then-20 year old to take on the entire Boston team? Boston plays the way they do because their entire roster is willing to fight - from Chara to Thornton to Campbell to Horton to Lucic - everybody fights on Boston. To expect one kid, a 21 year old, to stand up to all of them, is insane. Buffalo played this kid like his biggest asset was his toughness - so they played him as a 3rd/4th line banger and killed his offensive instincts in the process. He was constantly moved up and down from AHL to NHL and it's as if they had him believe that the only way he could stick to the roster was by fighting... But what I think Buffalo overlooked is that Kassian has great skills. Kassian can skate extremely well for his size. Kassian can shoot very well. Kassian can pass very well. Kassian can hold on to, and protect the puck with his body extremely well. Most importantly, Kassian is a beast along the boards. Kassian can help us gain possession and keep our cycle game going. He's not a fighter - that mean streak aspect of his game will come along as he gets more confident and established in this league. He can help us NOW on the top 9. This kid is skilled - it's a different skillset than Cody - Kassian's skills are speed, size, grit, puck possession and board battles. He is an impact player in many ways that Cody is not. Similarly, Cody is an impact player in many ways that Kassian is not - smart, playmaking, leadership. Except - we have players that have the skillset that Cody has, and they are better at Cody in that regard. We do not have players better than Kassian at what he does with his size, speed and skillset. Kassian, if he cannot help us now, will help us in the future greatly. The reality of the trade is, we don't need Kassian to be an impact player this season. Pahlsson is what we swapped Hodgson for - not Kassian. We can afford to wait for Kassian to develop if we need to send him down. No worries. But when he is ready, he will bring something to this team that nobody else can. With our player development and leadership, I have no doubt that whatever "problems" Kassian is rumoured to have will get straightened out by the veteran leadership in our locker room, our experienced coaching staff or the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trollerblader Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Bertuzzi babe on page 4 brings up an important point. I've been thinking this all day! Over the last 2 years he has accumulated TWENTY-SIX games of suspensions. How is that not the most important thing to discuss? Isn't a liability like that the last thing we want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'm very happy to get Zack Kassian, but even more disappointed to lose Hodgson. There is no question Kassian is tough, has good potential, and is the type of the player the Canucks could use. Problem is, the Canucks need to win now. Hodgson has proven himself to be a decent scorer in the NHL, Kassian has not. A few years down the road Kassian may be very good, and he will make our team tough to play against, but now we are missing Hodgson's secondary scoring. The Canucks didn't lose to the Bruins because they were tougher, we lost because we couldn't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 6'4 228lbs and only 21 years old...likes to fight and score goals..."likes to stand up for [his] teammates". Almost a point per game player in the A...and he's only 21. Impressive. I thought I'd be sadder losing Hodgson..but I like the return. If we had drafted Kassian his worth would be out of control on these boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAN_FAN_MATT Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Everyone's bashing Gillis now , I bet that'll change in the near future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Is this what everyone was crying for? A player with a rap sheet already? Is this the sort of player we want here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Welcome to Zack, hope you work out here, undoubtably you are a player with some potential. Just hoping we did not trade away the Rookie of the year and potential Conn Smyther to get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MattyM Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I hate seeing Cody go, but am excited to see what Kassian can bring to the table. Everyone bashing Kas already needs to stop. It's his first pro year, he's a year younger than Cody and way bigger. He is exactly what Everyone here wanted, now we have that type of players and everyone is complaining arg! Ridiculous. Just think only less than a year ago these boards were calling Cody a bust now he's the second coming and trading him will lose us the cup. My god make up your minds what a joke. Let's support Kas when he gets here and rally behind him. In MG I still trust, he has never led us astray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The RW position in buffalo is the only position they are deep in. Playing behind Pominville, Boyes, Stafford and Kaleta is a tough chore. The Sabres were not rushing him to the bigs, but they all know he is NHL ready. This is a win win situation for both squads. Pahlson is a gamer. Playing with his hometown buddies will only fuel the fire. He anchored a line in Anaheim that shut down Gaborik, the Sedin's, datsyuk and Zetterberg and finally spezza and Heatley. They didn't just prevent goals, they also lit the lamp throughout the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAN_FAN_MATT Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 6'4 228lbs and only 21 years old...likes to fight and score goals..."likes to stand up for [his] teammates". Almost a point per game player in the A...and he's only 21. Impressive. I thought I'd be sadder losing Hodgson..but I like the return. If we had drafted Kassian his worth would be out of control on these boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 How many huge/clutch goals has CoHo scored this year? BLAGHHHHHH Hate to see him go but I want to see him flourish, which he can't do in Vancity because under AV Kesler and Hank take priority. Interested to see what Kassian can do in the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyM Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Welcome to Zack, hope you work out here, undoubtably you are a player with some potential. Just hoping we did not trade away the Rookie of the year and potential Conn Smyther to get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobydooby Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 We traded Rookie of the Year for who? Over on the Sabres forum, Zack Kassian has been described as inconsistent, underwhelming, and not living up to expectations. Over here, Hodgson receives nothing but praises time after time. We already have Byron Bitz as our big-body power forward. Sure, we could use another big-body forward, but NOT at the expense of Cody Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks_booster Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 This is the right trade for the time. Cody is a wonderful player with a future but I want the Canucks to win the cup this year. I've been a fan for a long time and I know that if this this opportunity is squandered it may not come again for a long time. This is not the time to be concerned with the future of the Canucks, it is time to win the Stanley Cup and this trade can help. Zack Kassian may develop well under the Canucks excellent program but that's for next year. This year when the going gets tough he can scowl at the guys who think they can get away with crap. Samuel Pahlsson will win face-offs for us and shutdown things when called on. This is a good trade for us for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAN_FAN_MATT Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The RW position in buffalo is the only position they are deep in. Playing behind Pominville, Boyes, Stafford and Kaleta is a tough chore. The Sabres were not rushing him to the bigs, but they all know he is NHL ready. This is a win win situation for both squads. Pahlson is a gamer. Playing with his hometown buddies will only fuel the fire. He anchored a line in Anaheim that shut down Gaborik, the Sedin's, datsyuk and Zetterberg and finally spezza and Heatley. They didn't just prevent goals, they also lit the lamp throughout the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Good post, but I'm sorry...I couldn't help but notice how many times you said Kassian... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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