Tragoedia Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Stop with all these idiotic misinformed Hodgson threads please. There's many already running, and it's not like the mob hasn't had it's share of words already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its-Hod(g)son Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 where's the minus button when you need it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 ok, i think there is alot more to this deal than meets the eye. first the fact that when mike gillis was asked if cody asked for a trade he said no comment. which would make us think he did. but im sure we all heard cody's interview with james duthie the kid sounded really shocked. meaning most likely he didnt ask for one. rumour is cody's agent and dad pushed for this trade. now people saying he was never going to play before henrik and ryan acting like he is chained to only be a centerman. can he not just play on the second line wing? sedin sedin burrows booth kesler hodgson higgins pahlson hansen this kid was sopposed to be our future captian when kesler and sedin were gone. nothing against zack kassian i love the kid but i really strongly beleive we could have adressed our toughness issue without trading hodgson like cmon. i would much rather overypay raymond and a 1st for moen or ott. coach v never liked cody he never liked shirokov he never liked grabner. i have a hard time picturing niklas jensen playing on this team same with schroader. and with kassian i think he is going to be treated like ballard. he is going to make him a healthy scratch in the playoffs only playing him when we have injuries. which would make this trade look extremely bad. cody could have played wing with kesler everyone would have been happy we would have the defence/checking 3rd line. cody hodgson dosn't have one negative thing to his game, he has all the traits to be a great team leader. the truth is we could have adressed our toughness issue without trading cody. i also think coach v is a terrible coach on an amazing team. one more thing this trade really worries me for what we can get for schnieder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 If the Boston fans and media knew what they were doing they would not be Bruin's fans .. the average IQ of a Bruin fan is the square root of Lucic's SAT rating .. who gives a hooie WHAT the Bruin folks think?? .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy91 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 agreed getting rid of white was okay, but are you gonna sit there and tell me that trading Grabner (got a 3 mil cap hit contract and is now a top 6 on nyi, granted he has discipline issues, but the guy doesn't suck getting 34 goals on a piece of crap nyi islander team) and a 1st round pick for Ballard our 5/6th D man at 4.2 million, and oreo who has been sitting in the ahl this whole year.... that was a good 1 right? only difference here is Hodgson was better than Grabner... Ballard had a good NHL history... Kassian is all potential... and Kassian doesn't have a retarded 4.2 million dollar cap hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heart Break Kid Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The future captain of this team according to WHO, exactly? You? Fans? Here's a scoop........neither you or the fans of this team pick any captains, future or otherwise. A lot of people here are guilty of putting the horse before the Cody cart........and by the way, capitalizing the beginning of your sentences & player names, proper punctuation etc., would make your drivel here a tad more readable....... Not to mention that this could have gone in any of the Cody threads that are already in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvat x 53 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 When Hank and Dank retire Hodgson will be back in a Vancouver uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Getting rid of Grabner was a fantastic idea. Getting 34 goals and 18 assists makes him suck, actually. Any competent top 6 forward will get 18+ assists just by moving the puck properly and being on the ice for 82 games. The only top 6 forwards who don't get more assists are specialists, shut down guys or face off experts. I challenge you to find a good top 6 forward with fewer assists than that. Grabner has consistently been near the 2:1 ratio of goals to assists, which means he doesn't use his linemates properly, he doesn't advance the puck properly or play a puck possession game, and he simply is not a top 6 player on any but the weakest teams. Also he was on a one way contract and he certainly would have been lost on waivers and never played for the Canucks again anyhow. Rather than lose him Gillis got something for him and now people who can't see the big picture whine about it. Face the facts: Grabner sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Grabner sucks. Patrick White is in some third tier German league. Pre-Gillis drafting was mostly bad. Hodgson didn't fit the third line center role, etc. How about the mods add a skill testing question before people can make new CoHo topics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skadoosh Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Grabner's stats show him to be that way all throughout his background. The exception is his first year with the Moose. Whatever goggles you are wearing, take'em off. He was known for his self centered play before he was drafted and after. Staal does far more than Grabner ever could and only had that near 2:1 ratio twice in six years. Michalek has a couple years with more goals than assists, with Grabner its the other way around. Clarkson brings a lot more than just points, like massive penalty minutes. Face the facts. It was well understood what kind of player Grabner was even prior to the draft. He had speed and a shot and did next to nothing for his linemates. Nothing changed after he was drafted. He would never be a top six forward on a good team. Look at his stats this year also, not just last year. Grabner sucks. I think he will play the majority of his career in some euro league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 he was a captain and leader of his ohl team. he won player of the game in the wj finals, scores clutch goals internationally and n the nhl. extremely polite and well spoken. a leader on the ice. he is just an amazing person. dosnt take an idiot to think he will be a captain for any team one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skadoosh Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Oh please. Did you think that I meant pre-Gillis drafting to mean ten years ago? Twenty? Thirty? No, obviously I meant the previous GM. Some people will defend Grabner to the death, but this is a lost cause. Give it a rest, he sucks and would never make it on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I think I am defending the wrong point, I don't want grabs on my team... saying you don't get to the NHL and score 30 + goals if you suck, the chances of making it to where he is at, is slim to none. What I am trying to say is MG hands away our draft picks and future draft picks away easily. I mean, you can't say taking on Ballards 4.2 mil cap hit was the smartest idea... There are better ways to dump a player... And Coho.. he has made himself a nice resume in the NHL playing for the Canucks, doesn't that count for something? We are going to have to train Kassian, giving him fewer responsiblities than Hodgson... I just think MG should have gotten a bit more, maybe a 3rd round pick or something to sweeten the deal. I do understand the logic to this trade. It does make the Canuck Roster a bit more intimidating (assuming the guy doesn't get suspended, and he finds chemistry with the team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRow Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Oh please. Did you think that I meant pre-Gillis drafting to mean ten years ago? Twenty? Thirty? No, obviously I meant the previous GM. Some people will defend Grabner to the death, but this is a lost cause. Give it a rest, he sucks and would never make it on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Grabner's stats show him to be that way all throughout his background. The exception is his first year with the Moose. Whatever goggles you are wearing, take'em off. He was known for his self centered play before he was drafted and after. Staal does far more than Grabner ever could and only had that near 2:1 ratio twice in six years. Michalek has a couple years with more goals than assists, with Grabner its the other way around. Clarkson brings a lot more than just points, like massive penalty minutes. Face the facts. It was well understood what kind of player Grabner was even prior to the draft. He had speed and a shot and did next to nothing for his linemates. Nothing changed after he was drafted. He would never be a top six forward on a good team. Look at his stats this year also, not just last year. Grabner sucks. I think he will play the majority of his career in some euro league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 ok, i think there is alot more to this deal than meets the eye. first the fact that when mike gillis was asked if cody asked for a trade he said no comment. which would make us think he did. but im sure we all heard cody's interview with james duthie the kid sounded really shocked. meaning most likely he didnt ask for one. rumour is cody's agent and dad pushed for this trade. now people saying he was never going to play before henrik and ryan acting like he is chained to only be a centerman. can he not just play on the second line wing? sedin sedin burrows booth kesler hodgson higgins pahlson hansen this kid was sopposed to be our future captian when kesler and sedin were gone. nothing against zack kassian i love the kid but i really strongly beleive we could have adressed our toughness issue without trading hodgson like cmon. i would much rather overypay raymond and a 1st for moen or ott. coach v never liked cody he never liked shirokov he never liked grabner. i have a hard time picturing niklas jensen playing on this team same with schroader. and with kassian i think he is going to be treated like ballard. he is going to make him a healthy scratch in the playoffs only playing him when we have injuries. which would make this trade look extremely bad. cody could have played wing with kesler everyone would have been happy we would have the defence/checking 3rd line. cody hodgson dosn't have one negative thing to his game, he has all the traits to be a great team leader. the truth is we could have adressed our toughness issue without trading cody. i also think coach v is a terrible coach on an amazing team. one more thing this trade really worries me for what we can get for schnieder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The future captain of this team according to WHO, exactly? You? Fans? Here's a scoop........neither you or the fans of this team pick any captains, future or otherwise. A lot of people here are guilty of putting the horse before the Cody cart........and by the way, capitalizing the beginning of your sentences & player names, proper punctuation etc., would make your drivel here a tad more readable....... Not to mention that this could have gone in any of the Cody threads that are already in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 he was a captain and leader of his ohl team. he won player of the game in the wj finals, scores clutch goals internationally and n the nhl. extremely polite and well spoken. a leader on the ice. he is just an amazing person. dosnt take an idiot to think he will be a captain for any team one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skadoosh Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Do you remember the debate, son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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