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#1 jonnycanuck46

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:40 PM

Just a speculation I am having- Similar to Torres, Ehrhoff, Anson Carter, etc...Who have done well in Vancouver but not so well elsewhere, is Cody going to be added to this list?

Because its been 5 games in, and Cody hasn't scored a point, and is only a +1.

Kass on the other hand, has a goal and an assist in only 4 games.

What would you say if this trade ended up being like Nazzy for Stojanov, in our favour again? Could we have just dismantled Buffalo in this blockbuster?

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

Sure lets write him off as a bust when its still his first year in the NHL while other rookies are in the same slump as him lets write them off and call them busts too! Yeah lets do that shall we without properly following up Hodgson.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:42 PM

time will tell
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:43 PM

Klueze Cody played on the Nucks last year this is his 2nd year.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:44 PM

Nah man... point-a-game or close to it in a few years.....straight up
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:48 PM

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:50 PM

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It's obvious our star players, special personal training, and development system is what made Cody so successful here - heck, it's not everyday you get to learn from the NHL's best face off man, best duo in the world whom are both art ross winners, a Selke winner, play alongside the best D in the league, and get coached in the minors by star coach Craig McTavish, and when you come up, get coached by a Jac Adams winner who arguably has the best system in hockey; very few will get to do in their lifetime.

So with this, yea, Cody's success here was mainly because of the amazing facilities and assets he had here that no other NHL team has, so moving forward in Buffalo, he won't do good right away, as he'll have to learn how to get better without the advantages he had in Vancouver.


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:00 PM

People are so quick to judge. It's 5 games for christ sakes. Everyone was complaining about the Hodgson trade and now people hate him for stupid reasons. For some players it takes longer to adjust to being on a new team, others fit in right away, just look at James Neal last year when he got traded. 6 points in 20 games last year, now he's on Pittsburgh's top line ripping it up and getting close to a point per game.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:01 PM

If you ever watched Hodgson play, you'd see that he had the skills to succeed in the NHL and play a bigger role for another team.

Ehrhoff succeeded in the sense that he fleeced Buffalo.

Carter could have been what Burrows is if he had a bit more forsight.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

It's obvious our star players, special personal training, and development system is what made Cody so successful here - heck, it's not everyday you get to learn from the NHL's best face off man, best duo in the world whom are both art ross winners, a Selke winner, play alongside the best D in the league, and get coached in the minors by star coach Craig McTavish, and when you come up, get coached by a Jac Adams winner who arguably has the best system in hockey; very few will get to do in their lifetime.

So with this, yea, Cody's success here was mainly because of the amazing facilities and assets he had here that no other NHL team has, so moving forward in Buffalo, he won't do good right away, as he'll have to learn how to get better without the advantages he had in Vancouver.


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+1 I agree. It`s true when you think about it.

Vancouver spends more on player development than any team in the league. They have world class players, coaches, and trainers.

And not to knock on Buffalo`s offence, but they only have 2 players with 40+ points, while Vancouver has 5.

No doubt Cody gained more playoff experience with this team in it`s run to the finals, than some players do in their entire careers.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

If he was given more ice time by a guy named AV!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:03 PM

He looks slow.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:04 PM

Is this even a serious question...
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:04 PM

Cody now that he is playing second line minutes will also be facing top 4 defensive pairings. I think his progress will continue, but it will be difficult to replicate his numbers consistently. He will also have to face some large, mean, skilled forward lines and will have to work hard in his own end and down deep. He's not the fastest or biggest centre, but we all know his shot alone should probably guarantee him his share of goals, and he passes the puck well. I also don't think he is ready to be a consistent top six scorer nor to simply create offence on his own - at this point, he needs to be in a situation where he is surrounded by solid two way players, but I think everyone would be shocked if he turned out to be a bust.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

Sure lets write him off as a bust when its still his first year in the NHL while other rookies are in the same slump as him lets write them off and call them busts too! Yeah lets do that shall we without properly following up Hodgson.


jesus h. christ, lighten up...the post is pure speculation, and a "what if" scenario. anything is possible, cody could become an average player, a nobody, or a superstar in buffalo. all in all anything is possible, vancouver has way more tools to make hodgson look good than buffalo does so his performance is expected to slump a little. the same thing can happen on our very own team, put someone with the twins and they have a career high season, take them off that line and they become average. i hope it turns out like the naslund trade and is a blockbuster in our favor but at this point anything can happen.

please excuse the sloppy punctuation, im dead tired.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:13 PM

Its only been a couple games, he will find his game with Buffalo soon enough. Go CoHo!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:14 PM

Klueze Cody played on the Nucks last year this is his 2nd year.


Technically is its considered his first year cause its his first full year. Which is why he is a Calder contender
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:16 PM

Just a speculation I am having- Similar to Torres, Ehrhoff, Anson Carter, etc...Who have done well in Vancouver but not so well elsewhere, is Cody going to be added to this list?

Because its been 5 games in, and Cody hasn't scored a point, and is only a +1.

Kass on the other hand, has a goal and an assist in only 4 games.

What would you say if this trade ended up being like Nazzy for Stojanov, in our favour again? Could we have just dismantled Buffalo in this blockbuster?


I very seriously doubt our team made him better. He played low minutes on mostly the third and fourth lines where every player he was with was worse then he was offensively speaking. He also lifted the second PP unit into quite a great unit.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:17 PM

the sedins havent had points in a while, kes has 1 goal in 13 games guess we should give up on them too
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:18 PM

It's obvious our star players, special personal training, and development system is what made Cody so successful here - heck, it's not everyday you get to learn from the NHL's best face off man, best duo in the world whom are both art ross winners, a Selke winner, play alongside the best D in the league, and get coached in the minors by star coach Craig McTavish, and when you come up, get coached by a Jac Adams winner who arguably has the best system in hockey; very few will get to do in their lifetime.

So with this, yea, Cody's success here was mainly because of the amazing facilities and assets he had here that no other NHL team has, so moving forward in Buffalo, he won't do good right away, as he'll have to learn how to get better without the advantages he had in Vancouver.


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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:18 PM

Cody. Is. Not. A. Canuck. Any. More.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:20 PM

Right... if you watch him play he's making a ton of impact plays just that one him or his line mates are cashing in on.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:28 PM

Does anyone miss nazzy? he hung em up too quick.. i stil think if he played he woudve been dynamite in the playoffs! Especially with the added boost of making it past the second round!
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:32 PM

did ya have to re-hash this once more?
hodgson is no longer a canuck.
kassian seems to have more versatility to offer our team RIGHT NOW while also having plenty of potential for future impact.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:37 PM

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:37 PM

As others have noted, Hodgson will be facing better competition than what he normally had to face while he was with the Canucks. Other teams were more likely going to put their best d-pairing against the Sedins or Kesler rather than Hodgson.

Another factor will be coach's response to Hodgson's performance. If you think AV was rough on him wait until you see Ruff get going.

I believe Hodgson will also have to deal with longer shift length than what the Canucks normally use. This could be a benefit or a problem for him, at least in the short term.

He'll likely do well, eventually.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:37 PM

Hodgson was used in prime situations this year, starting something like 80% of his faceoffs in the offensive zone. Without checking the stats, I'm betting he's playing in a lot more scenarios, leaving less time for the optimized minutes he played here. He's also playing tougher competition in Buffalo, likely playing against the second pairing of defense rather than the 3rd. I'm sure Cody will put up great numbers in Buffalo, but it won't be this season.
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:39 PM

This is a joke...were talking about a rookie here, first full NHL season. Do you really think hodgson was gonna go into Buffalo and light up the lamp. He is still settling in. These last few games of this season, Hodgson is just getting familar with the team and their way of play. Next season I see him being a 50-60 point player
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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:42 PM

This is a joke...were talking about a rookie here, first full NHL season. Do you really think hodgson was gonna go into Buffalo and light up the lamp. He is still settling in. These last few games of this season, Hodgson is just getting familar with the team and their way of play. Next season I see him being a 50-60 point player

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