theminister Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 It would make sense considering that pretty much our whole team is signed for next year. Getting a top 6 player for $3.75 mil could be excellent value for the money. Especially so if MG can get Ballard included in the deal. And let's be honest....Yakupov firing home one timers and fed breakaway passes from the Sedins could be unreal. Just as possible would be his ability to turn our 2nd line into a very deadly offensive line. We would still have our 1st to either draft or use to acquire a D-man, and whatever compensation we will get for Raymond. Sedins-Yakupov Booth-Kes-Burrows Higgens-Lappy-Hansen ________-Manny-Kassian or Sedins-Burrows Booth-Kes-Yakupov Higgens-Lappy-Hansen ________-Manny-Kassian All of those players would be signed with Bieksa, Edler, Hamhuis, Ballard, Tanev and Alberts. / Add to that as well that even the year after, in 2 seasons, 2013, we would still be able to 'cobble' together a top 6 of: Sedins-Yakupov Booth-Kes-Kassian Meaning the Canucks wouldn't need to put the pressure on any of their young prospects to be top 6 players for 2 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhawk Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Yeah I could see Columbus's 1st for Schneider and Vancouver's 1st. Only problem is that you are then left with Lou and Lack and pun intended I believe that is lacking. Kind of a bind for the Canucks as trading away Schneider is in a way " Cutting off the nose to spite the face "! Would be better for the Canucks I think to find a taker for Lou and keep Scheids but this is much easier said than done. Either way even though it is a bind it is also an exciting issue to have. Yakopov would be amazing. Memories of Pavel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAILED-BY-THE-HAMMER Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 this draft year might be more shocking then last year. who predicted carter and richards being moved the kings trading top prospect schenn and i recall simmonds was untouchable i feel a big 3 team swap coming up. edmonton needs a goalie but schneider aint going there lots of drama most likely approaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm guessing they don't want to build such a shaky franchise around a Russian. I understand that. But it will take far more than Schneider to pry it out of them. If anything, I think it's more likely that Columbus trades down and while getting a few blue chip prospects in return as well. For example, To CBJ: Toronto's 1st round pick (8th overall) + Jake Gardiner + Joe Colbourne To TOR: 1st overall pick I'd also tank one more year if I was CBL so that I'd get a chance at Nathan MacKinnon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacare Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 the real question is does columbus have the time needed to mature a goalie prospect? i don't think the owner(s) will keep paying the bills for the 3-5 years needed for that. thats what makes this plausible. they need to make the playoffs next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Sedins+Luongo for Columbus 1st round pick+Johansen+Nash+Methot Nash-Kesler-Burrows Higgens-Johansen-Booth Kassian-Phalsson-Raymond Lapierre-Malholtra-Hansen Yakopov- in minors Edler-Bieksa Hamhuis-Tanev Methot-Rome Schneider Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Get on this one Gillis! Yakupov's idol = Pavel Bure. Pavel Bure's most affiliated team = Vancouver. Pavel Bure's agent = Mike Gillis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Ummmm, who is here is surprised? The only time it wasn't up for grabs was 2005 and 2004. Every year, what they will do tell the leauge, that the 1st overall pick is avaialble, and they will just see what offers they will get for it, to see what options are available. In this case, they might actually be a little more serious, and just not doing it to see what is offered because Columbus might have another early pick from LA if they miss the playoffs. But nothing to really see here. I am expecting them to use this pick. They do have crap luck when it comes to drafting russian players, terrible luck actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I think MG will make a BIG splash at the draft just to calm Canuck nation about giving up skill in Hodgson. He needs to replace that kind of skill in the organization. If we get Yakupov, watch out! He will be an immediate impact player that will contribute right away without waiting long for him to develop. He's got the complete package and will be the young superstar to build the team around as our core ages. Columbus wants Schneider plain and simple and they know Tampa also wants him. Why do you think they leaked that tidbit of info about being willing to deal the 1st pick?.....To tell Tampa that they will be the ones to get Schneider. This will definitely get Vancouver's attention and I do believe that's what MG had told Columbus he wanted. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Another thing I'd like to add as well, if we do this deal with CBJ and it comes to fruition, I really hope MG can find a way to get Steve Mason as a throw in. I'd love to see Rollie Melanson get his hands on this guy to see if we can develop him into a quality backup for Lu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm curious, those who are very familiar with player values through trade - what is Schneider going to be worth? I know supply/demand is a large factor, but historically (since lockout), what have been the prices for a RFA stud goaltender? 7 years removed from the lockout, this season is a perfect example of parody in the league - we've never seen a more competitive season. But the 1 significant difference between those who hold a playoff berth and those who don't - consistent goal tending. After what Tim Thomas did in the SCF last season, and 'lessons learned through parody' this year, GMs have or will realize you get no where in this league without good goaltending. I think demand shoots through the roof, supply is limited, resulting in cost that might just be laughably high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bassi13 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'm curious, those who are very familiar with player values through trade - what is Schneider going to be worth? I know supply/demand is a large factor, but historically (since lockout), what have been the prices for a RFA stud goaltender? 7 years removed from the lockout, this season is a perfect example of parody in the league - we've never seen a more competitive season. But the 1 significant difference between those who hold a playoff berth and those who don't - consistent goal tending. After what Tim Thomas did in the SCF last season, and 'lessons learned through parody' this year, GMs have or will realize you get no where in this league without good goaltending. I think demand shoots through the roof, supply is limited, resulting in cost that might just be laughably high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningWild Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Parity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MashedBananas Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I hope Nail doesn't become Ovechkin 2.0, talent but no heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 if im cbj im like "you haft to be kidding me, we get the 1st pick and the best player is russian!" but yakupov could be different because he is playing in sarnia.......if he was still playing russia then i would be freaking out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I hope Nail doesn't become Ovechkin 2.0, talent but no heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 If Yakupov has concussion symptoms that keep him out of the playoffs, he may drop from consensus #1. However, if it's not Yakupov, it's Grigorenko, so if Columbus wants to avoid drafting a Russian, they should trade it. I think they would most likely want to trade for a lower top 5 pick and add a second prospect than anything else. But if the Jackets do want to trade for more proven talent, they covet Corey Schneider, and MG is interested in adding one of the aforementioned Russians, it will still take more than Schneider and our 1st rounder to make it happen. They will want at least one other prospect/player, and it won't be a player we'd easily part with (such as Ballard or Raymond). For instance, let's say they want Schneider, a 2nd rounder, and David Booth. (I could see Booth being a player they'd like to add - the friendly, fan-favorite American to generate fan interest). Do you still make that deal? ...I guess it depends on how he performs in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It would make sense considering that pretty much our whole team is signed for next year. Getting a top 6 player for $3.75 mil could be excellent value for the money. Especially so if MG can get Ballard included in the deal. And let's be honest....Yakupov firing home one timers and fed breakaway passes from the Sedins could be unreal. Just as possible would be his ability to turn our 2nd line into a very deadly offensive line. We would still have our 1st to either draft or use to acquire a D-man, and whatever compensation we will get for Raymond. Sedins-Yakupov Booth-Kes-Burrows Higgens-Lappy-Hansen ________-Manny-Kassian or Sedins-Burrows Booth-Kes-Yakupov Higgens-Lappy-Hansen ________-Manny-Kassian All of those players would be signed with Bieksa, Edler, Hamhuis, Ballard, Tanev and Alberts. / Add to that as well that even the year after, in 2 seasons, 2013, we would still be able to 'cobble' together a top 6 of: Sedins-Yakupov Booth-Kes-Kassian Meaning the Canucks wouldn't need to put the pressure on any of their young prospects to be top 6 players for 2 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain.Canuck Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Canucks get the first overall pick Columbus receives schneider, our 1st overall pick and they have another pick already. If they trade Nash they will get another 1st rd pick plus prospects/players add that to Jack Johnson and thats a good start to a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Schneider + Tanev + 1st is what I'd imagine would be the least of what they would be asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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