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Signing Bieksa Over Ehrhoff Was A Big Mistake

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And also do you not remember how brutal Ehrhoff was during the SCF??? He was absolutely horrible, and i understand he was injured, but he was one of the players that cost us. Bieksa was solid all playoffs and is on eof our X factors on D.

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whats with the edler bashing he is on pace for 50+points i hope he signs for a deal 4yrs between 3-4m a year then that would be awesome.

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Hard to show up when you're playing with one arm. But then again, Kesler played on one leg. The Sedins on the other hand....

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Hard to show up when you're playing with one arm. But then again, Kesler played on one leg. The Sedins on the other hand....

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KEVIN BIEKSA 69 7 31 38 16 77 2 0 1 143 4.9

CHRISTIAN EHRHOFF 58 5 25 30 -2 38 1 0 3 130 3.8

:picard:

I see KB3 with 8 more points, and on pace to score 3 more points if they both played 82 games. While that happens kb3 gets 2nd unit pp and Ehrhoff gets 1st unit. On top of that he is on the shut down line, and plays physical.

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KEVIN BIEKSA 69 7 31 38 16 77 2 0 1 143 4.9

CHRISTIAN EHRHOFF 58 5 25 30 -2 38 1 0 3 130 3.8

:picard:

I see KB3 with 8 more points, and on pace to score 3 more points if they both played 82 games. While that happens kb3 gets 2nd unit pp and Ehrhoff gets 1st unit. On top of that he is on the shut down line, and plays physical.

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No it wasn't. Bieksa's season and his abilities in general get severely overlooked. This season he's got 7 goals, 31 assists and 38 points, good for 12th in the NHL in D scoring. He's a great, smooth skater, he's physical and mean, and he's solid in his own end, despite the fact people want to solely credit Hamhuis for his success in the defensive zone. He has a +16 rating to show for it. He's more of an all around player than Ehrhoff and even has more points than him.

I was upset that we lost Ehrhoff to Buffalo but at the same time I won't deny Bieksa is having a fabulous season. Glad we kept him! I'm actually surprised there isn't more talk about him league wide. There aren't many defensemen that come with the full package that he does, except the obvious ones in the elite tier. The other perk is that he's a home grown late round pick of this organization. For a team that doesn't draft many serviceable NHL players, let alone top players, from the late rounds of the draft, they sure did a good job with Bieksa.

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I agree with you OP, Bieksa is so overrated as a player.

He had "seniority" so the Canucks organization made it a priority to sign him first before Ehrhoff. He's definitely not worth the $4.6M caphit, considering he needs a star stay-at-home defenseman (Mitchell, Hamhuis), to make him look good.

From a pure hockey standpoint, most teams would take Ehrhoff over Bieksa. But since he had roots in Vancouver, Bieksa was given a good offer.

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I agree with you OP, Bieksa is so overrated as a player.

He had "seniority" so the Canucks organization made it a priority to sign him first before Ehrhoff. He's definitely not worth the $4.6M caphit, considering he needs a star stay-at-home defenseman (Mitchell, Hamhuis), to make him look good.

From a pure hockey standpoint, most teams would take Ehrhoff over Bieksa. But since he had roots in Vancouver, Bieksa was given a good offer.

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I don't know what games you were watching but Ehrhoff wasn't very physical and wasn't very good in the playoffs defensively. I was glad to see him go. The last thing we need is soft defencemen.

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I agree with you OP, Bieksa is so overrated as a player.

He had "seniority" so the Canucks organization made it a priority to sign him first before Ehrhoff. He's definitely not worth the $4.6M caphit, considering he needs a star stay-at-home defenseman (Mitchell, Hamhuis), to make him look good.

From a pure hockey standpoint, most teams would take Ehrhoff over Bieksa. But since he had roots in Vancouver, Bieksa was given a good offer.

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Only on CDC would you find whiny threads all on the first page when the team is 5 points out of first place in the league with 2 games in hand (after tonight).

This thread wouldn't even exist if the team were on a 3, 4 game winning streak.

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Bud. You have missed my point completely... my point is that IF the reason why we didn't resign Erhorff was due to his term being too long and too rich. Then to me it is BS since we are a big market club and can afford to give players term on their contract. Worst case we bury him in the minors IF and WHEN his production starts to slip. That bonanza from last year's playoff run more than covers the extra $s we have to spend parking him in the minors. BTW, Anyone wonder what happened to the $50 million revenue from last year's playoffs? With ticket prices as high as they are, Canucks ownership is laughing all the way to the bank with all the extra gravy.

Back to point. At least to me our defense is missing Erhorff more than most people realize or care to admit. Instead of having Hamhuis and Bieska playing a shut down role, we are now relying them for offense. Instead of having Edler playing a more defensive role as Erhorff's partner, again we have him gunning for more offense. Is there any wonder Edler looks so lost out there? Just look at his +/- and how bad he is playing. Did Edler's skill set change over night? Nope. Same tool belt, just different role he is being asked to fill (Erhorff's) and we can all agree it is still work in progress. Right?

As to your retort about having to be under the salary cap. Well let's say I'd rather play $5 million/yr to Erhorff as our No.1 offensive DMan than $4.2 million/yr to Ballard to be a healthy scratch. I am sure that we can find $0.8 million/yr somewhere (ie. Rome or Albert) to make sure that we fit under the cap.

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The big mistake in this situation was Ehrhoff being greedy and wanting more $$$$. Watch as we win the Stanley Cup and his Sabres don't even get past the first round in the time he's there.

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