ilduce39 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Schneider is solid but he's not the second coming of Roy or Hasek... if he is better than Luongo it isn't by much and the margin (for better or worse) all depends on how Luongo is trending. I'm all for keeping Schneider in the loop but why people want to hit the panic button with 10+ games left instead of letting Luongo work through his slump is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_lax_ Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 ....and I think whats really hurting Lou is that he knows..deep down inside , that Schneider is better than he is !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman44 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Luongo's mental breakdown is NOT gonna help the Canucks. These boys have worked HARD to get where they are, Luongo is just baggage right now. PLAY SCHNEIDER! WE WANT THE CUP !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Luongo's mental breakdown is NOT gonna help the Canucks. These boys have worked HARD to get where they are, Luongo is just baggage right now. PLAY SCHNEIDER! WE WANT THE CUP !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer&meat Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Ok, I just have one question for you. How do younger goalies take over the number one spot on their team? Do you think they just wait until the older goalie retires? No, it is by stats and a coaches gut feelings. I think what alot of people are saying is that they are noticing a notable difference between Louie and Cory. I think it is a fair observation, and one that is backed up with current stats. If Lou had a better save percentage and GAA then you could argue the other way. Like one of the posters said, put the best team on the ice. Two questions actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 To compare season stats and take from them that Cory Schneider is a better goalie and try and pass it off as fact is not "fair", it's not even fact, it's an opinion. Cory Schneider has played almost 1400 less minutes than Luongo, to think the "Is on pace for" stat holds any truth is foolish , there's absolutley NO way to know what Cory's numbers would look like if he played those extra 1400 Minutes. I took ALL of Cory's games, good and bad, I took a 2 month stretch of Luongo's games , good and bad. It's about as accurate as comparing 2827 Mins played to 1438 Mins played. Oh since we are trying to be so accurate, Ginger has never posted 3 shutouts in 7 games, in fact he doesn't even have 3 shutouts this year........or last. (3 SO in 2 seasons, 51 GP) I also never gave my opinion about anything, I'm giving facts that comparing 1400 minutes to 2800 minutes and deciding that a 2nd year backup goalie with 3244 Mins played in the NHL is "better" than a veteran, Gold medal winning, Vezina nominated, game 7 Stanley Cup Finalist with over 41,000 Mins played starting goalie is well, in your words "skewed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I also agree with everything said below the second bolded comment Don't get me wrong here, I'm not defending Luongo's bad play of late, I want what's best for the team, and right now Ginger is the best choice tomorrow night and possibly for the next few games until he stumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf44 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 ....and I think whats really hurting Lou is that he knows..deep down inside , that Schneider is better than he is !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Luongo has been arguably the teams best player this season, you guys saying he's an average net minder and that Schneider should be the #1 are idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer&meat Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Good timing with the minutes. The last 2 years combined Cory has played almost identical minutes to Lou this season. Last 2 years Cory has played 2810 minutes making 1353 saves on 1454 shots and .931 save % and 2.16 GAA Luongo this year has played 2827 minutes making 1280 saves on 1397 shots and .916 save % and 2.48 GAA Shouldn't the elite guy have far superior numbers to a guy in his 1st and 2nd year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Anyone watched the defense play lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 So now we are going to compare 2 part time seasons to 1 full season? Cory had a much easier season last season Last 2 years Cory has played 2810 minutes making 1353 saves on 1454 shots and .931 save % and 2.16 GAA Last 2 years Roberto has played 6417 minutes making 2907 saves on 3150 shots and .922 save% and 2.29 GAA Luongo played 3607 minutes more, and the numbers aren't that far off. Again I'm not defending Luongo, don't confuse my intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Man I can't wait til Schneider is traded, or Luongo wins a cup...somewhere, just the joy and spiteful things I'll have to say will be so fun and satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer&meat Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I agree with this statement for sure, so how much better is Cory this year compared to last year when we both agree he played much tougher games this year and his numbers are better than last year? How much worse is Lou when his numbers are significantly worse playing a much easier schedule this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The consensus is,,,,Canada won gold with a stacked team in spite of the mediocre goaltending..and certainly not because of it....Lous gold medal has a bit of tin in it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer&meat Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 The consensus is,,,,Canada won gold with a stacked team in spite of the mediocre goaltending..and certainly not because of it....Lous gold medal has a bit of tin in it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 There is a point to this question! Simply.............. How does a younger, less experienced goalie take over the number one goalies spot? If you can answer the question you will have your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 Here's a solution that'll satisfy the pro Luongo, Anti Luongo, pro Schneider and Anti Schneider.. Trade Schneider in the off season, Luongo ask for a trade right after. We tank for the next 10 years and rebuild. since nothing will satisfy both side.. getting rid of them both would be the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Beer...I'm willing to bet I've been involved in goaltending and coaching for probably twice as long as you;ve been on earth...whats your qualifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkoshack Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 LMAO did you get your consensus from a CDC poll? Bwahahahahahahhahaha. You realize that CDC is not the Majority voice when it comes to Canuck fans. CDC is largley made up of pre pubecent kids that don't know alot about hockey. I would think you would know that, but after reading alot of your posts I see you're just one of the crowd. By the way, if Demitra could say hello, he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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