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#1 yete

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:01 PM

I don't get last year we had raffi torres, tanner glass and victor oreskovich

ok raffi torres and victor oreskovich I still remember starting the playoffs they hit every moving player brought energy...

even tanner glass had some edge

so are we tougher this year here is whom we have currently

maxuim lappriere - ok this guy is a another Avery face it canucks fans he doesn't bring toughness he brings a different element

manny malhorta - still no toughness here?

and finally zack kassian - thas it? this is our one player we have for toughness? How many times will he fight in a game to try sparking the team or hit? he is just one player !


I dont know what the plan is for this team come playoffs but we don't look tougher then last year thats for sure...
also before you say we have toughness they are healthy scratches then whos the odd man out? i know for sure AV won't bench raymond, manny or lapriere? I think Gillis made a foolish mistake come deadline day he should of traded away either manny or laprierre or even raymond........... This team does not look tougher then last years team........

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

Weise, Bitz may have some call-up time, those two are scrappers.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

I heard Bitz is pretty tough.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:08 PM

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:09 PM

not a problem

"I think Gillis made a foolish mistake come deadline day "

one minute you complain about a lack of toughness
the next you are suggesting that moving a small finesse center and adding Kassian and Pahlsson was a foolish mistake?

ok.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:10 PM

I stopped reading after you compared Avery to Lapierre. That my friend is an epic fail!
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:11 PM

I stopped reading after you compared Avery to Lapierre. That my friend is an epic fail!


Exactly. Last time I checked Avery wasn`t even in the NHL... :lol:

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:11 PM

I hear Raymonds been working out

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

Wow. Easy to tell you have no idea what your talking about. Oreo was invisible minus a few hits and glass just sucks. Alot.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

Lappiere is a troll, but not stupid. He will crash with the best of em without dumb penalties, Zack will be unleashed, Bitz may make some appearances. I really like Wiese, more so than Bitz in a fast paced game. Edler beast mode will activate, and hopefully Bieksa. It seemed we out hit everybody last year, even Boston, it just took its toll on our lighter players. Other than Bieksa we really dont have great fighters but i dont thinks its a problem aslong as we stand our ground after the whistle.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

Lappy has fought 7 times this year for what it's worth.

I was saying Lu-Urns...

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

We'll be fine come playoffs because our depths players have the size and toughness we may need come playoffs. Bitz, Duco and Weise are all going to get put into the line up(not all at once obviously) during the playoffs IF needed. Thats a big IF because we might not be playing against a team where we will require size and toughness but IF we do, they're there to be utilized.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

I stopped reading after you compared Avery to Lapierre. That my friend is an epic fail!


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:27 PM

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:29 PM

In my opinion our forwards definately got tougher.......
-We lost torres but we gained Kassian (bigger, willing to drop gloves against bigger opponents (although he didn't fare that well against Staubitz at least he dropped the gloves) , possibly may try to hit everything that moves come playoff time).
-Weise has the ability to also be a big hitter in the playoffs given his speed. He's a definate upgrade over Glass.
-we still have Oreo and can call him up at any time
-Booth may not necessarily drop his gloves, but come playoff time with his speed and ability to hit will be tougher to play against than Sameulsson.
-Pahlsson will be tougher to play against than whoever we had as our 4th line center during the playoffs. (was it Bulduc or glass?)
-we have Bitz who we can sub in at any point and provides a big body that we didn't have last year.

However I feel our D is soft (and we didn't address this at the deadline!) thus I think it's important to play Rome over MAG.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:30 PM

Torres? Great, quality player for his roll.
Glass? Soft as hell, can't perform under pressure
Oreskovich? So, so invisible.. Thinks he's a scorer when he's not.

Bitz? Hard hitting, strong, large forward with okay hockey skills.
Kassian? Big power foward with a lot of potential for scoring
Weise? Scraps when he has to, plays with his heart

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:31 PM

How? Bitz, Weise, Kassian, Duco, Volpatti (might be available come playoff time).

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:32 PM

We have Boom Boom Bitz this year :towel:
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

Kassian doesn't hit. Kassian needs to hit. He NEEDS to. If he doesn't, send him to the farm and call up somebody/dress somebody that does.. Like Weise. Or Bitz.

The game against Montreal was horrendous. They just went around destroying the Sedins (Mostly PK), and nobody hit him or fought him? Okay Kassian, go fight the other tough guy on the other team.. that really does a ton to help us, not. I know he's his friend and all, but Kassian needs to show he can actually stick up for him team mates. He had better show that within these next games here.

PS, Bitz or Weise would not have even flinched and gone after PK.

PS, PS, Where the hell has Kesler's Physical presence gone!? :sadno:

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:51 PM

Bitz, Duco, Weise, and Kassian are great additions for toughness. It's unfortunate about the loses of Volpatti and Pinizzotto to injury. I also don't get how people aren't happy with Lapierre's play, he's 15th in the league for hits, and his 7 fights are a great bonus.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:52 PM

Kassian doesn't hit. Kassian needs to hit. He NEEDS to. If he doesn't, send him to the farm and call up somebody/dress somebody that does.. Like Weise. Or Bitz.

The game against Montreal was horrendous. They just went around destroying the Sedins (Mostly PK), and nobody hit him or fought him? Okay Kassian, go fight the other tough guy on the other team.. that really does a ton to help us, not. I know he's his friend and all, but Kassian needs to show he can actually stick up for him team mates. He had better show that within these next games here.

PS, Bitz or Weise would not have even flinched and gone after PK.

PS, PS, Where the hell has Kesler's Physical presence gone!? :sadno:


Wow he's 21, give the kid a break. he has over 20 hits in 5 games. And a goal and an assist. And Kelsers coming off injury man some people are arrogant

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:55 PM

Sedin-Sedin-Bitz.
Higgins-Kesler-Booth
Hansen-Pahllson-Burrows
Wiese-Lapierre-Kassian

tough enough lineup for me.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:57 PM

Sedins and Raymond are our only "soft forwards". The whole toughness thing is overplayed.

On defense Bieksa, Elder, Hamhuis and Ballard are all physical.

Tanev + Salo both are some of the best players positionally.

Alberts and Rome are both physical.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:59 PM

Sedin-Sedin-Bitz.
Higgins-Kesler-Booth
Hansen-Pahllson-Burrows
Wiese-Lapierre-Kassian.


Hard to justify allocating a spot on the top line to a fringe NHL'er...

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:59 PM

Torres? Great, quality player for his roll.
Glass? Soft as hell, can't perform under pressure
Oreskovich? So, so invisible.. Thinks he's a scorer when he's not.

Bitz? Hard hitting, strong, large forward with okay hockey skills.
Kassian? Big power foward with a lot of potential for scoring
Weise? Scraps when he has to, plays with his heart


Agreed. Probably the best way of explaining the difference between this year and last years teams toughness.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:05 PM

I really want to call-up Bitz during Playoff time.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:07 PM

I don't get last year we had raffi torres, tanner glass and victor oreskovich

ok raffi torres and victor oreskovich I still remember starting the playoffs they hit every moving player brought energy...

even tanner glass had some edge

so are we tougher this year here is whom we have currently

maxuim lappriere - ok this guy is a another Avery face it canucks fans he doesn't bring toughness he brings a different element

manny malhorta - still no toughness here?

and finally zack kassian - thas it? this is our one player we have for toughness? How many times will he fight in a game to try sparking the team or hit? he is just one player !


I dont know what the plan is for this team come playoffs but we don't look tougher then last year thats for sure...
also before you say we have toughness they are healthy scratches then whos the odd man out? i know for sure AV won't bench raymond, manny or lapriere? I think Gillis made a foolish mistake come deadline day he should of traded away either manny or laprierre or even raymond........... This team does not look tougher then last years team........


Lapierre hits everything that moves. If Oreskovich hit anything that moved, he would still be on the team.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:10 PM

Sedins doubling their hits from last season, they are trying to play more tougher. The whole team dynamic has changed to where u mess with my teammate, im coming after you, as to where it was do nothing score on the pp last year. Torres made big hits last year, Oreo did nothing, Glass played soft. Hopefully we'll see Kass turn it up come playoffs but I am loving what his presence has done to Lappierre, just nailing everything in sight. Kassian sticks up for teammates unlike Torres who was only willing to fight to defend himself. That gives our whole team more confidence to play their game especially the Sedins. So yes we are tougher than last year, but not better.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:11 PM

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:12 PM

Wow he's 21, give the kid a break. he has over 20 hits in 5 games. And a goal and an assist. And Kelsers coming off injury man some people are arrogant


There's Hits, then there's really hits. Him being 21 should be more incentive to prove himself, no?

Kes has been back for awhile..

If people are going to start saying they should be resting, how about they start playing. They just got dumped by Montreal. This should be a real wake up call. We're NOT first in the west anymore. They should really be actually playing for that top position.
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