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#181 DeNiro

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:46 PM

Andrew Alberts hasn't been very good, in fact Alex Sulzter was better then him. The only thing he's good for, is his size and physical play. Other then that, he's quite terrible.


Hmmm, size and physical play? Isn't that exactly what we're lacking right now?

He doesn't make any more bad plays then Edler or Bieksa, plus he hits a ton. I would put him in over Gragnani right now, just to give this team some sort of physical edge. They need some of their swagger back.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:46 PM

Well, at least the Dead Wings lost worse than us tonight.
EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GO CANUCKS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

So much for Av's feelings. I would have pulled Luongo after the 3rd. goal. Does he not remember this is a 3-2 League?

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

Then it's not Lu's fault. It's the coach's decision.


Lou can be faulted for playing like crap,,but I do agree at this point it is AV's fault more than Lous.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:48 PM

Booth-Kesler-Higgins
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Hansen-Pahllson-Kassian
LaPierre-Malhotra-Wiese

Bieksa-Hamhuis
Salo-Edler
Tanev-Ballard

Schneider
Luongo

Makes the most sense to me
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:49 PM

I hate to sound like the Ghost of Christmas Past, but has anyone else noticed that the nose dive started when CoHo was traded?


Where is Hodgson in the Buffalo line-up? 4th line?

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#187 Lui's Knob

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:49 PM

truly missing a top 4D.

another thing:

Hamhuis Bieksa

Edler Salo

Gragnani Tanev

Man we really need a top 4 defensive dman.



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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:50 PM

I find it unfair , that you have to attack other players in order to defend one player. This is the Dan Cloutier situation happening again. The sedins are struggling yes, but nothing is worst then 16 goals being allowed in the past 4 games. If a team allows 16 goals in 4 games, chances are, they lost all of them. I don't even know how you can blame the players on this one. To score 4 goals in one night, is real good. To score 4 against Phoenix is very good, because they are defensive deticated. But allow 5 goals from Phoneix is very bad. To allow 16 goals in the past 4 games, horrible.

FAILING TO KEEP THE GAME CLOSE FOR YOUR TEAM TO TIE IT UP IS QUITE BAD
LETTING THE OTHER TEAM TAKE A 2 GOAL LEAD, 4 STRAIGHT GAMES, VERY BAD
LETTING THE OTHER TEAM A 3 GOAL LEAD 3 GAMES IN A ROW, SUPER BAD!

WE HAD NO CHANCE TO WIN. IT'S NEVER SAY DIE IN HOCKEY,B UT THE TEAM WILL FEEL DEJECTED ONCE DOWN BY 2. BEING RANKED 18TH IN SAVE PERCENTAGE IN THE LEAUGE IS NOT IMPRESSIVE! THERE ARE 30 NUMBER 1 GOALIES IN THE LEAUGE, HES 18TH! HES BLOW AVERAGE! YOUR ARGUEMENT IS WEAK


uhh i think you need to read my post again

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:53 PM

Even though we lost, I like looking at some of the positives from that game, our offense stepped up a lot this game, there were parts of that game where the Canucks seemed to control a lot of the flow of the game, something that seemed to be missing a lot of in the previous games, so it's good to see some signs of life from the team and hopefully they can build off that and get closer to what we all know they are capable of.

The biggest issue I had while watching the game was when I would keep seeing Raymond out with the Sedins. I understand the line shuffling, and maybe hoping that Raymond can get something going while playing with the Sedins, he really seemed to be a liability most of the time he was on the ice. He had a glorious chance for a breakaway early in the first period, but wasn't able to handle the pass, and from then on his game deteriorated. I did see a couple plays he made that didn't result in turnovers but I seemed to see a far greater amount that did. Did anyone else notice that during the 1st intermission when they were talking about the line shuffling, they showed clips of raymond during the 1st period and it went something like this: He misses the breakaway pass, he get's rubbed off the puck, he turns the puck over in the neutral zone, he stands near the Canucks net as the Coyotes score/celebrate one of the goals. I really feel like he needed to be moved off the line for someone else, the even strength goal that was scored while the sedins were on the ice was when Hamhuis jumped into the play, going to where the 3rd forward should be but was nowhere to be seen.

BTW OP that clip is amazing :D

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:55 PM

I hope MG can find a way to keep Schneider. I really hope so.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:57 PM

a tied game? Yeah, those face palms are for you, obviouslly... Raymond wasn't bad you monkey


Sorry, I meant trying to tie the game.

Raymond shouldn't be there when they're trying to tie the game; if you haven't noticed, his offensive game is all but non-existent right now...

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

The Sedin line was beyond useless. When you know that line did not produce much the whole game, why put that line the last minute. I would have sent out Kesler, Booth line. (sigh)

Shirley...now get serious.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:00 PM

If anyone thinks Raymond with the Sedins is a serious line, it's not.

I think this is AV's last ditch effort to try and get Raymond going, and so far it didn't work. I'd give him one more game to get something going on the top line, and if he can't, I think it's time to go to the pressbox for the forseeable future.

It sucks that we don't have another real option for the Sedin line, because Burrows on the third line works really good I think. Too bad Bitz was sent back so soon, he looked like he could be a fit.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:01 PM

Missed the last half of the game saw until 3-3 the first 2 goals were terrible and can not be blamed on anyone but luongo. kicking a goal crease shot to the slot. And that was the slowest worst deke I have ever seen

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:01 PM

Lou is garbage

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:02 PM

So the failure to pick up a right d-man at trade deadline was exposed tonight.

What happens when Edler-Salo struggle, or Salo gets injured? AV has to break up Ham-Juice pairing, so Juice can play with Edler.
Rome/Alberts can't play with Edler (we've seen that experiment fail), and Tanev looks good but AV doesn't trust him to eat big mins. The only guy who has looked good with Edler, well, that guy was traded on Feb 27.

So now we see Juice-Edler also look horrible, what happens if Salo goes down? Canucks are screwed pretty much, right?

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:02 PM

Is it just me or does this team need some serious coaching adjustments? I've never really complained about AV, I think he's a great coach,but there last couple of games he's made some questionable choices/
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:04 PM

Scratch raymond... problem solved.

Yep, as soon as Raymond is scratched, Luo will become a goalie, cuz Raymond is preventing Lo from controlling his rebounds.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:04 PM

It's just to bad Ballard is injured. A Ballard Tanev pairing would look good right about now. For Saturdays game I think Gragnani should be taken out of the lineup and either give Alberts a shot or put Rome back on the 3rd D pairing. At least we were winning with Rome in the lineup.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:06 PM

So the failure to pick up a right d-man at trade deadline was exposed tonight.

What happens when Edler-Salo struggle, or Salo gets injured? AV has to break up Ham-Juice pairing, so Juice can play with Edler.
Rome/Alberts can't play with Edler (we've seen that experiment fail), and Tanev looks good but AV doesn't trust him to eat big mins. The only guy who has looked good with Edler, well, that guy was traded on Feb 27.

So now we see Juice-Edler also look horrible, what happens if Salo goes down? Canucks are screwed pretty much, right?


Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Tanev
Ballard Rome

That's not that bad. Of course we need Ballard to come back healthy.

I think if any team loses a top 4 defenceman they're going to suffer. Canucks fans just got spoiled last season by having 6 top 4 defenceman. Most teams don't have that.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:07 PM

Who do you think AV loves more: Raymond or Rome?

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:08 PM

If anyone thinks Raymond with the Sedins is a serious line, it's not.

I think this is AV's last ditch effort to try and get Raymond going, and so far it didn't work. I'd give him one more game to get something going on the top line, and if he can't, I think it's time to go to the pressbox for the forseeable future.

It sucks that we don't have another real option for the Sedin line, because Burrows on the third line works really good I think. Too bad Bitz was sent back so soon, he looked like he could be a fit.


AV put Raymond with two guys who were deader than doornails and they get three points for the first time since Jesus learned to walk water. How is that Raymond's fault? I say that makes him a slump buster for the Sedin's. Maybe now we can sew him to one of Luo's pads and turn Luo into a goalie.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:09 PM

Why. Was. Raymond. Out. There. In. The. Last. Minute. Of. Play. In. A. Tied. Game.

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7 people liked this, just shows how stupid people that hate Raymond actually are

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:09 PM

Yep, as soon as Raymond is scratched, Luo will become a goalie, cuz Raymond is preventing Lo from controlling his rebounds.


No, but he kills any line he is on.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:10 PM

How was Kass?

The key difference is that Sopel can fill in for Seabrook and Campbell just fine. Bieksa, he is garbage so in that sense he is like the worst defenseman in the league.


When Cody (Hodgson) gets older, he might be better than Datsyuk.


Let's not push this guy (Kassian). He's still immature, and if he fails on the 2nd line it's because he isn't ready. Some guys really need years to develop, it's how well and how fast players adapt to the game. In my opinion, I'd rather have Horvat getting 2nd line minutes. He will start off on the 3rd line next season but I see him making the transition, being a great compliment to whoever plays his wings.

At this point, I don't see Kassian fitting in to any role other than a 3rd. If players like Kassian start getting 2nd line minutes then we just stay inconsistent as a team.


The idiocy on CDC....

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:11 PM

Right now in the last 8 games luongo has a 3.75 goals against average. He also has a shutout in that time, meaning he is closer to 4 goals a game. Bench luongo and put in schnids why AV didn't do that is beyond me.


Everyone should be able to agree lou is not at his best the last few nights, but this is why we have a great backup! I dont get why there is such an uproar from lou fans and even the coaches seem scared of it. It should be made clear. We have two great goalies, preference will be given to lou, but if hes struggling schneider will play. End of story, yet lou plays even when he is not playing well, nothing is said, animosity and speculation builds...

We are in a unique opportunity, both schneider and lou have been very unselfish saying they are happy to share the crease. It just amazes me how the coaching staff and some fans turn it into a controversy. Weather they like it or not, this is what happens when you have a great backup and continue to stick with someone who is struggling the past few weeks.

I really like st Louis approach i dont hear complaints there. They play whoever playing strong.

What will we do next year if lou struggles and we have no great backup, we should be celebrating this yet its almost like the canucks staff wants to ignore it, and tuck schneider away.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:11 PM

MG conspired with Buffalo to make a trade that was bad for both teams. Now, our third line is unproductive and Hodgson is -4 with zero points for Buffalo. That doesn't even account for how bad our D has played since the addition of Grangagme.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:11 PM

Sorry, I meant trying to tie the game.

Raymond shouldn't be there when they're trying to tie the game; if you haven't noticed, his offensive game is all but non-existent right now...

Yeah well, like someone recently said. Raymond gets put on the Sedin line and they FINALLY get some points. Yeah, Raymond sucks dood

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:13 PM

AV put Raymond with two guys who were deader than doornails and they get three points for the first time since Jesus learned to walk water. How is that Raymond's fault? I say that makes him a slump buster for the Sedin's. Maybe now we can sew him to one of Luo's pads and turn Luo into a goalie.


One of Henrik's points came on the PP without Raymond even on the ice.

The next two points came from a play created all by Henrik and Daniel, and Hamhuis following up a rebound. Raymond was nowhere to be seen on that play.

I think the Sedins broke out of their slumps all on their own. They could have been playing Aaron Rome on their line.

Time to reunite the Twin-Bitz line, I liked the look of it. Bitz opened up so much more space for the Sedins then any other of their linemates could.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 11:15 PM

the puck was bouncing off luongo's pads like a bouncy ball, terrible rebound control
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