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#31 Kesler_smash

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:46 PM

More ridiculous speculation from CDC's psychic network. "I can read the players minds, they are just coasting to the playoffs where the sleeping beast will be awoken" Give me a break...try posting something based on facts....The facts are the entire team has played like crap for say a month or month and a half. I think you have a higher chance of injury playing lazy, unmotivated hockey without being properly focused you will be less aware and have a harder time avoiding hits, etc. All in all I don't buy this overused argument about resting/coasting into the playoffs, its not the right attitude or work ethic for a professional to have not to mention its just being pulled out of the a$$ of the people who use it. Facts support arguments way more, and the facts right now are the team is playing like crap.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:48 PM

Y'know... In the playoffs i wouldn't mind trying Ballard and/or Alberts as forwards if our current forwards are banged-up. Not as 4th liners either. Because opponents would just focus on that line. We would need them to be put with some talent so they can go to the net and create room for the talented guys.

Of course we would likely use Bitz, Mancari, Weise, Duco instead... But that comment by Ballard saying he'd like to try forward... It makes a bit of sense. He's pretty fast. And he likes to hammer guys into the boards. Might be worth a look if the need ever comes up. Cheers.


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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:54 PM

we have hardly, through choice or necessity got out of 2nd gear this season.


More like the one time we got out of 2nd and into overdrive we remained there, and we've been misfiring and lugging away in overdrive ever since. When we can finally drop into second firing on all cylinders and get this jalopy movin' it'll be a welcome sight. Hope it happens within the next 16 games.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:10 PM

I agree with your post, we will come out and hit in the playoffs just like we did last year. But.....one concern that I have is if we have players that are resilient enough to handle the physicality for the sum of the playoffs. By Game 7 last year, we had so many players on the limp that we were done in Game 7. This year we have already had a number of injuries, hopefully all of the new additions will be game ready by the playoffs so that we have enough healthy bodies to utilize instead of so many on the limp. A guy like Ebbett, could take pressure off of Kesler instead of playing Kes hurt. If he needs a game to recover, give it to him...same for Henrik. We also have a number of players that could jump into a 3rd or 4th line spot when you need to rest Malhotra etc.
The most important thing is that we get to the final game healthy.....with the depth we have, we have a better chance this year.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:58 PM

More ridiculous speculation from CDC's psychic network. "I can read the players minds, they are just coasting to the playoffs where the sleeping beast will be awoken" Give me a break...try posting something based on facts....The facts are the entire team has played like crap for say a month or month and a half. I think you have a higher chance of injury playing lazy, unmotivated hockey without being properly focused you will be less aware and have a harder time avoiding hits, etc. All in all I don't buy this overused argument about resting/coasting into the playoffs, its not the right attitude or work ethic for a professional to have not to mention its just being pulled out of the a$$ of the people who use it. Facts support arguments way more, and the facts right now are the team is playing like crap.


No one is denying the FACT that the Canucks are playing like crap right now. We're trying to give a reasonable explanation... not an excuse... for that. They are healthy and basically have the same lineup they had when they were on a tear before the current slump. They don't suddenly lose it for no reason. For example, they made one of the league's worst teams, Montreal, look like world beaters recently. Is Montreal suddenly so awesome? No.
There have got to be two reasons. One is the lack of motivation... the Nucks have got a high seed for the playoffs locked up. They no longer have an incentive to play hard. Two is playing not to get hurt. That means holding up on their physical play... both when forechecking and in front of the net. Forget about shot blocking.
No, it's not a professional attitude, but like it or not, they are playing like this either consciously or subconsciously. Anyone who plays any competitive sport at all would understand the thing about motivation... either against a weaker opponent or when there is no strong incentive to play hard. It happens.
As it has been mentioned here, other elite teams are playing like crap lately too. Is that a coincidence? No, it's happening for the same reasons as the Canucks. I'm betting we'll see the intensity cranked up for all these teams come playoff time.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:42 PM

This is an answer to the other topic which was closed, as it was along similar lines but implied the Canucks were trying to lose.

I take it that it was my thread you referred to.

I intentionally DID NOT say the team was losing on purpose because I don't think that for a moment. I think saying that is disrespectful and not fair to the other teams involved.

However what I do believe is that subconsciously the players are not putting their bodies on the line. That doesn't mean they are not trying to win.
I believe the thought that they now know how important it is to go to the playoffs fit/healthy means they're not prepared to play "playoff hockey" before the playoffs, especially when they are virtually assured of a high seed position.

Imo they are meeting teams just now that fall into two categories.
The first category are those who are prepared to play "playoff hockey" in order to qualify. They are playing harder/tougher than the Canucks need to because they see it as a chance to make progress using tactics that the Canucks don't need to/can't bring themselves to use.

The second category, and I admit I could be wrong here, are teams like Montreal who are playing "playoff hockey" either to take a prestigious scalp like the Canucks, or Boston, or Detroit or they have a coach who may fear for his position and sends his team out to "do a Boston" on these teams.

I agree this would be risky for the Cannucks..........if it was intentional.

However, I maintain it is all in the mind at present. Don't forget some of our players may have already picked up some slight injuries, strains, bruises so can you blame them for subconsciously trying to avoid more?

It's only a theory..........I'm no psychologist. However I have seen football/soccer clubs play "reserve teams" over here in minor Cup competitions, not just because they don't want their stars to be injured but because they know the reserves will play hard in order to impress and improve their chances of promotion to the top team.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:13 PM

They are saving themselves for the playoffs. They have come out hard against teams that are at the top, even recently. The teams that are scrapping for position are not worth playing our hearts out against and injuring ourselves for games that are coming up that will really matter...period...

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:54 PM

I wonder if Hank has been playing hurt since being seen in his foot cast. The timelines of his, and our first line's slump exactly date to then. Perhaps its time for him to give up on the iron man streak, take time off & heal?

Without a doubt, he's what stirs our lethal scoring attack. We need him healthy!!!

This could definitely be the case and if he is hurt, somebody needs to make him sit out. The streak is great, and we know he's tough despite all the "sisters" b.s., but the team has to come first.




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