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ken kaniff

Van Draft And Offseason Ideas

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*edited to make the montreal trade more plausible

so before the draft if everything stays the same, standings wise and not counting the playoffs this is what i would do

to tampa: schneider

to van: tb + det 2012 1st,

tampa would have the 6th pick overall not counting the lottery and standings fluctuations

to van: mtl 2012 1st,

to mtl: tb + van + det 2012 1st

mtl gets the 3rd pick overall. *assuming edm drafts a defenceman

van drafts C Mikhail Grigorenko 6'3 200lbs.

send Grigorenko, Kassian and Jensen play together in chicago for a year or 2. develop chemistry together

Jensen-Grigorenko-Kassian

offseason

trade ballard, raymond 2013 2nd to dallas for morrow

salo retires

sign pahlsson 2 years 1.9mill cap hit

sign rome 3 years .9mill cap hit

sign bitz 1 year .7mill cap hit

sign weise 1 year .7mill cap hit

sign bryan allen 2 years 2mill cap hit

sign volpatti 1 year .6mill ca hit

sign gragnani 3 years .9mill cap hit

lineup

D sedin H sedin Burrows

Booth Kesler Morrow

Higgins Pahlsson Hansen

Malholtra Lappiere Bitz

/weise/volpatti

bieksa hamhuis

edler tanev

gragnani allen

/alberts/rome

lou

lack

1.8mill in cap space

if everything is allowed to happen no trades get rejected thats what i would do

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Your defense is extremely weak.

Also I really doubt Montreal would make that trade. They need an elite young player rather than two crapshoot late first rounders.

If Tampa offered both of the firsts for Schneider (and we decided to keep Lou and trade Cory) then I would accept that deal.

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You lost credibility when you proposed a Raymond+Ballard+pick.

And where's Schroeder?

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Ballard, Raymond, and a 3rd offered for Morrow will make Joe laugh at MG for hours. I can't really see any of those trades happening.

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Ballard, Raymond, and a 3rd offered for Morrow will make Joe laugh at MG for hours. I can't really see any of those trades happening.

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Draft Day:

If LA missed the playoffs, I could see them going in a different direction with the franchise. (They're already doing that with Richards/Carter). This plan is contingent on them missing the playoffs

To NYI

Andrew Alberts

To VAN

NYI 5th

Clear cap space. The Isles only have 3 defenseman signed next year. Alberts is a decent bottom pair player.

To TB

Cory Schneider

Keith Ballard

NYI 5th

To VAN

Det 1st

Brett Connolly

TB 3rd

Tampa need a goalie. It's clear. For Schneider I would want the equivalent of two 1st rounders. So it's Detroit's 1st, and then Tampa's first or Connolly. The 4th is for Ballard. Tampa needs top-four defensemen as well. I don't think it's too unreasonable.

To LA

Det 1st

Brett Connolly

TB 3rd

To VAN

Dustin Brown

Like I said, only if Lombardi wants to change the complexion of the team. I think the deal is fair. It's similar to the structure of the original Richards/Carter deals.

Free Agency:

Re-sign Aaron Rome - 2 years at 900,000/year

Re-sign Samme Pahlsson - 2 years at 2,100,000/year

Re-sign Dale Weise - 1 year at 645,000/year

Re-sign Sami Salo - 1 year at 2,000,000

Re-sign Eddie Lack - 2 years at 945,00/year

FA signing: Bryan Allen - 3 years at 3,000,000/year

FA signing: Justin Schultz - 2 years at college ELC max (1,200,000)

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER

My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Dustin Brown ($3.175m)

Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / David Booth ($4.250m)

Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Samuel Pahlsson ($2.100m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)

Zack Kassian ($0.870m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m)

Dale Weise ($0.645m) /

DEFENSEMEN

Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)

Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Sami Salo ($2.000m)

Bryan Allen ($3.000m) / Justin Schultz ($1.200m)

Aaron Rome ($0.900m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)

GOALTENDERS

Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)

Eddie Lack ($0.945m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,618,333; BONUSES: $0

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $681,667

One can dream right?

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Montreal has only had 3 top 5 draft picks in the last 32 years

Price - 5th overall in 2003

Svoboda - 5th overall in 1984

Wickenheiseer - 1st overall in 1980

Montreal desperatley needs a big talented forward (preferably a center)

I seriously doubt they're going to trade away their first opportunity in over 30 years to draft top 3 or 4(when there are a couple good big centers available) for 2 very late 1st round picks and a young defenceman that they don't need. (Montreal has a number of good young defencemen developing in the minors)

They would likely consider it if it was Tampa's 1st AND Detroits 1st IF it looked like one of the two big centers would still be available when Tamp's pick came up. I can't see them doing it under any other circumstance.

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Montreal has only had 3 top 5 draft picks in the last 32 years

Price - 5th overall in 2003

Svoboda - 5th overall in 1984

Wickenheiseer - 1st overall in 1980

Montreal desperatley needs a big talented forward (preferably a center)

I seriously doubt they're going to trade away their first opportunity in over 30 years to draft top 3 or 4(when there are a couple good big centers available) for 2 very late 1st round picks and a young defenceman that they don't need. (Montreal has a number of good young defencemen developing in the minors)

They would likely consider it if it was Tampa's 1st AND Detroits 1st IF it looked like one of the two big centers would still be available when Tamp's pick came up. I can't see them doing it under any other circumstance.

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@ mr therammer: good ideas but i dont think allen is worth 3 mill. plus i think we overpay for brown. he could be replaced within our system in a few years with rodin or sweatt. conolly will turn out to be better than brown so i doesnt make much sense to trade him away, given he is very early in his development and could be great

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send Grigorenko, Kassian and Jensen play together in chicago for a year or 2. develop chemistry together

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I don't think Salo is going to retire, I think he will play next year on the 3rd pairing. Is Jensen ready to make the jump? I would have like to get another Chris Neil/Steve Ott type player, but I can't think of any.

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Fantasy offseason wishlist for estimated 70million salary cap...

Trade Schneider + Gragnani + Ballard to TB for Hedman + DET 1st

Trade Det & VAN 1st + Raymond + Tanev to NSH for Weber

Sign Weber (long term NMC deal)

Sign Suter (long term NMC deal)

Sign Konopka

Sign Winchester

Sign Weise

Promote Sweatt

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER

My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS

Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)

Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / David Booth ($4.250m)

Bill Sweatt ($1.200m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)

Brad Winchester ($0.900m) / Zenon Konopka ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)

Dale Weise ($0.750m)

DEFENSEMEN

Ryan Suter ($6.000m) / Shea Weber ($6.000m)

Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)

Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Victor Hedman ($4.000m)

Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / Sami Salo ($1.000m)

GOALTENDERS

Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)

Eddie Lack ($0.900m)

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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)

(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)

SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,228,333; BONUSES: $300,000

CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $771,667

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To the post about drafting Vasilevski (for some reason the quoting isn't working for me...):

I would rather see the Canucks trade back and pick up two 2nd round picks (or something like that) and use one of those picks on Oscar Dansk. Saw the kid at the WJAC in Langley in November, and I personally think he could be the goaltending steal of the draft.

Had those qualities that people praise in goalies today. Poise, athleticism, etc.

The draft is fairly deep through 50 players, so I would not be disappointed with trading 30 (amirite?) for say 37 and 47, if some team has their eyes on particular player.

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trade schneids and someone for picks.

trade picks for a top four Dman, problem solved

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Nice thread, only thing I know is that in this off-season if we don't get a d-man and possibly rookie forward that can produce now (Seguin-type) ....were screwed

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It would suck to see Schneider go, but maybe the reason Luongo hasn't played with full-focus this season and last is due to the fact he has Schneider breathing down his neck. Whichever goalie we keep tho,im fine with it.

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@ mr therammer: good ideas but i dont think allen is worth 3 mill. plus i think we overpay for brown. he could be replaced within our system in a few years with rodin or sweatt. conolly will turn out to be better than brown so i doesnt make much sense to trade him away, given he is very early in his development and could be great

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