Walkin'2929 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 No, absolutely not. The League can handle its own problems. Besides, if we start going that route, where does it all stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 While it's a good point that had that elbow to the head happened on the street Keith would be facing assault charges right now, and rightly so, the reality is that if you did half of what is legal to do to another person in a hockey game you could rightly be charged with assault. Of course the elbow wasn't allowed under the rules and should not have happen, but athletes of all kinds consent to the physical contact in their sport that would otherwise be illegal and acknowledge the possibility that sometimes contact deemed illegal even by their sport will happen. Players should be able to rely on their sports organizations to create and fairly enforce rules to protect them against unnecesary harm. Keith's hit on Daniel needs to be dealt with harshly, but by the NHL. If you start inviting the police into hockey matters where will it end? With any head hit, intentional or not? With dangerous clippings? With the next time Marchand feels "threatened" and calls the cops to come and protect him from the big, bad man coming quickly towards him with a large dangerous weapon in his hand and sharp blades on his feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sQuish Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Definite facepalm thread... comparing this to McSorley is just ludicrous... this was at least somewhat within the bounds of the game of hockey (e.g. hitting). Swinging a stick at someone's temple is a whole nother ballgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Duck Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 YES! (c-c-combo breaker) ...but only if we want the rest of the league to think of us as soft, whiney, diving complainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HX833 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Peterson Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 "Yes"... Keith should be charged with being stupid, however being stupid is not a crime, it's just a life long sentence...'CBS CARES' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyHockey Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Hi all Here's is an article (http://www.haven4gam...vancouver-news/) I wrote today on this situation, interested to hear what you all think: You can look at this for rundown of what happened and a retired referee's take on it: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=391084 No suspension news yet from the NHL but has anyone asked the question: Should Duncan Keith be charged with assault on Daniel Sedin? People will remember the incident between Marty McSorley and Donald Brashear in February 2000. Here is Wikipedia's description of the event: On February 21, 2000, McSorley, playing for the Boston Bruins, swung his stick and hit Donald Brashear in the head with 3 seconds left in the game. Brashear fell backwards and hit his head hard on the ice as a result of the stick's contact with his head and helmet. As a result of the fall and hard contact with the ice, Brashear lost consciousness and suffered a grade 3 concussion. As a result of the stick incident, McSorley was charged with assault and suspended by the NHL for the remainder of the 19992000 season (including playoffs) missing 23 games. On October 4, 2000, a jury found McSorley guilty of assault with a weapon for his attack on Brashear. He was sentenced to 18 months probation. The trial was the first for an on-ice attack by an NHL player since 1988. After his assault conviction his NHL suspension was extended to one full year (through February 21, 2001).[2] McSorley would never play in another NHL game. How is this situation different from Keith / Sedin's? It is alleged that Keith said to Sedin "I'm going to get you" prior to the elbow assault so there's the premediated intent to injure. The only difference is the weapon used, McSorley used a hockey stick while Keith used a very hard hockey elbow pad. They are both hockey equipment and they are both very capable of inflicting damage in an assault if used properly and with intent. Regardless of the suspension that is placed on Keith by the NHL, in my opinion, this matter should be looked into by the police for assault charges. In a recent CBC article, the injury to Sedin is looking to be very very serious: The team doctor for the WHL's Vancouver Giants, Dr. Raj Attariwala, says he is concerned that Sedin may have sustained a brain injury. "It's actually one of the most common times, we actually see people, they're hit in the jaw, the jaw snaps up, it hits the brain, or it hits the skull with tremendous momentum, which will give you a concussion," Attariwala said. Think about this, if this happened on the streets of any city, would this be allowed to happen without police involvement? I think everyone knows the answer is NO. People will argue that the NHL should police its own matters and for the most part I agree, but in this situation where there is implied intent to injure, the act of injuring and then someone with brain damage, I think this warrants policing outside of the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derr12 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If we were to take and draw parralells to the outside world with hockey, then hard bodychecks would be an assault charge. Go Bodycheck some lady walking down the street. Hockey is a contact sport, outside the arena is not. I swear, 50% of hockey "fans" belong in the movie "idiocracy". It's got electrolytes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Hahaha, had a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtjp16 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I cant believe this topic isn't locked yet. Ridiculous thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Duck Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If we were to take and draw parralells to the outside world with hockey, then hard bodychecks would be an assault charge. Go Bodycheck some lady walking down the street. Hockey is a contact sport, outside the arena is not. I swear, 50% of hockey "fans" belong in the movie "idiocracy". It's got electrolytes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 You're an idiot. Do you want this going on for years and years like Bertuzzi-Moore? If he gets charged (and it would have to be in Chicago - good luck with that!) there would be a dozen assault charges every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 It wasn't a hit like Brasher got.. so no. But it does require a suspension and fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If he flat up said to Danny that he was going to get him, then a lengthy suspension should be handed down for the intent alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Absolutely not. The courts need to stay out of this stuff unless the act committed on the ice is way beyond the scope of what is deemed to be acceptable. And by this, I mean McSorley trying to decapitate Donald Brashear. That was so far over the line for what a player accepts as part of the game that it was in the next country. An act so outside the on-ice acceptability of a certain level of violence and potential harm that it was dealt with in the courts and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edler's Mind Tricks Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I can't remember? Why is it again that we are the most despised fans in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi Babe Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Yeah...because crap like that doesn't get said 50 times a game at every level of hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimitedEdition Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 NO. This thread is why Canuck fans get a bad rap for being idiotic. Please delete this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeneir Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Are you kidding me? Suspension, yes. Assault, HELL NO. Let's not make this bigger than it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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