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#1 honey badger36

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:59 PM

What would it cost? He hasn't had a top notch season. He had a major injury that's affected his ability to prepare for the season. he's lost core strength and it shows. But he can get it back he might not be a 30 goal scorer but if we could resign him for similar money to Hansen I for one would be thrilled. Do you think he should or will be moved if so for what? and what do you think it would take to resign him.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:19 PM

his market value is 3 mil + but i say 2 mil per year for 2 years on the canucks.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:36 PM

He's finally playing well and now you want him to retire :P

He has shown up recently, and Kesler is starting to play with some nice jump. They might finally be hitting their stride after their injuries.

If Raymond can keep this play up when Daniel comes back, then I'd gladly sign him to 2-2.5 million.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:51 PM

his market value is 3 mil + but i say 2 mil per year for 2 years on the canucks.


Who would pay 3 million for the Way he has been playing this year?

He was just above 2 Mill after his Contract ran out before and that was just after a 25 goal season, who would Pay anything more than that with the way he has Played since that Season.

I say around 1 - 1.5. 2 - 2.5 is the Highest I would go, Assuming he is able to keep up his Play consistently through this Final Stretch and the Playoffs.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:29 PM

If we want to re-sign Raymond, with the season he's had, he'll probably just accept the qualifying offer.
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:00 AM

2 mil per year?

1-1.5 mil.. is pretty low.. especially if you think 1 mil is even an offer he would consider. That's Lapierre type money...

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:40 AM

2 million for 3 years, most likely.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

Who would pay 3 million for the Way he has been playing this year?

He was just above 2 Mill after his Contract ran out before and that was just after a 25 goal season, who would Pay anything more than that with the way he has Played since that Season.

I say around 1 - 1.5. 2 - 2.5 is the Highest I would go, Assuming he is able to keep up his Play consistently through this Final Stretch and the Playoffs.


i agree he isn't worth his market value but if you look at all the players at free agency last year almost all of them werent worth there value

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:23 PM

It all depends on if he can keep up the way he's been playing in the playoffs.

If he keeps up, maybe 2 years 2.5 million per year. He's had such an underwhelming season that he needs to have a REALLY good run in the playoffs to have any negotiating power. But since that scratch, he's looked like the Raymond from 09/10. He needs to do what he's been doing for the past couple games: Getting open, making nice passes, stick handling with confidence, using his speed effectively, taking shots and most of all, taking the fkn puck to the net.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:43 PM

id say 2 years around 2mill per. he hasnt produced much and people usually take a pay cut to stay in vancouver so he would have to do that also
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:48 PM

I wouldn't re-sign him, we need to bring someone new into the line-up but if he were to stay I'd be okay with the re-signing if it is lower or equal to 1.75 mil/1 year deal. His market value is about 2.5 million - 3.25 million but he really doesn't deserve that much.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:56 PM

Is this really where this League is going?

Players producing as much as Raymond are probably going to be making 4-5 mill in 10-15 years

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:57 PM

12yr/67mil

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:59 PM

Id imagine he'd get around 2 mill. But I can also see him going to arbitration and getting more than 2.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:02 PM

Isn't he making $2.55 right now? The qualifying offer would be more than that if I'm not mistaken.

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:15 PM

2-3 million would fit for raymond for 2 years
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:43 PM

2 is more than enough
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Posted 25 March 2012 - 01:54 PM

Trade his rights, canucks can add players at the 2ish mark that bring more to the table than just a perimeter player. Hypotherical....for two million would you rather have Torres, or Raymond both worth 15ish goals in a 80 game season.....Let the leafs have him!

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 02:14 PM

His market value is between $2.5-$3.5 million, but on the Canucks, he is worth $1.5-$1.75 million. Say its low, I don't care much, but you look at what Higgins, Hansen, and Lapierre are getting, Raymond is not going to get $2.25+. He may be get $2 mill, but that'd still be a over payment considering what other get, and if he believes he deserves $2.5 ill+, then let him walk or trade him at the draft.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 04:39 PM

let him walk......just move on

we need that money going towards defensemen

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he has no spot on this team...even if kassian is ready for big time minutes or not, the canucks need a player that brings more to the table then just speed

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:13 PM

i agree, raymond should resign and move on to something else, but i'll miss screaming out "raymond down" and taking a shot 7-9 times a period.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:20 PM

Agreed with letting him walk.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

1.85 or less for 1 season
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:33 PM

Qualifying offer must be 110% of the previous contract.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:39 PM

I sure hope GMMG doesn't qualify him, but moves him instead unless he has an amazing playoff - like .75 PPG or better.

The guy has a good last 3-4 games but he's done that before. A team needing a ladder LWer who is good on the PK and has speed (I know - pretty specific) would probably have interest.

Columbus who could always use scoring depth and has the last place PK might be interested. Toronto who actually has a bunch of tweeners, but he we drafted by BB and their PK is horrible. Tampa Bay might be interested also after losing Bergenheim and trading off Moore.

All three of those teams might also be interested in Schneider so maybe Raymond will just be a throw into one of those deals.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 05:47 PM

You guys do realize that he'll be an rfa and the minimum qualifying offer to keep him is $2.6 million per year? Otherwise he goes to market and gets what he gets

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:02 PM

Why don't we just do what Pittsburgh did with Kennedy? Not qualify him and negotiate with him prior to July 1st.

At this point a few teams might be interested but I doubt Raymond would leave unless he was offered big bucks elsewhere.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 10:06 PM

keep him for 2 years at 2.6

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 10:14 PM

D. Sedin (6.1) - H. Sedin (6.1) - Burrows (2)
Booth (4.25) - Kesler (5) - Kassian (0.9)
Higgins (1.9) - Malhotra (2.5) - Hansen (1.35)
______ (0.00) - Lapierre (1) - ______ (0.00)
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Total: 31.1

Where does Raymond fit? Especially after Pahlsson is re-signed. Not on the bottom line or as a depth forward.

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