roland Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Weren't our trainers the same trainers who stood behind Team Canada in the 2010 Olympics? Or maybe is was an all-star game, but either way, I remember them being hand picked for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckCupFever Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Hey champ, Daniel has a concussion. Did you know you're not suppose to fly right away or until it is properly diagnosed? Probably didn't know that did you yet you wanted to fly him right to Vancouver, a long flight where anything related to his health could have gone wrong. And what the hell are your credentials? Are you a doctor? Maybe a medical student? How are you even remotely close to be giving professional advice on the health of the Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denguin Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I, too, was dumbfounded when Raymond was "helped" off the ice. Not sure who dropped the ball there, but found it very strange at the time to see: It was in Boston....shouldn't they be the ones supply stretchers/paramedics? Not sure it was our guys who dropped the ball - seemed to be a lack of response within the arena. Which wouldn't surprise me at all with the lowlife organization they run. As for Danny, initial assessments likely include asking the player for their own evaluation in an "are you ok to go?" way. I'd imagine Danny thought he was, but quickly realized he wasn't. It's easy to say in hindsight that they "should have known", but many do take high hits and are ok to carry on. So you have to rely on how the player, themself, is responding I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Burnstein and/or the medical staff should be fired for their incompetent handling of the Daniel Sedin and other injuries. Should Daniel have played the pp shift after the Keith elbow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageForever420 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Burnstein and/or the medical staff should be fired for their incompetent handling of the Daniel Sedin and other injuries. Should Daniel have played the pp shift after the Keith elbow? Ok, maybe a warrior like Daniel convinced Burnstein that he could play the next shift but he should have been sent back to Vancouver right away and not having to travel to Dallas first. Other examples of lousy assessments by training and medical staff - Mason Raymond should have been taken off on a stretcher in the Boston series; the wrong diagnosis on Cody Hodgson, etc. It even goes back to the Mike Robitaille lawsuit back in the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmgOmgOm_g Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 huh? These guys are world-class.... do you not remember them with Team Canada in the Olympics two years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 lol, CDC at its finest. First armchair GMs and armchair coaches. Now we have armchair doctors too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Well, I'd say we've pretty much come full circle. We had calls for AV, Bones, Gillis and Brown to be fired, virtually everyone on the roster to be traded.... ...about the only thing left was the medical/training staff. On the plus side, I think Pat O'Neill's job is safe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uber_pwnzor Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I DONT AGREE WITH FIRING THEM AND I DO THINK THIS POST IS USELESS BUT I WILL AGREE THAT RAYMAY SHOULDNT OF BEEN ABLE TO SKATE OFF ON HIS OWN AND I ALSO THINK THAT THEY SHOULD OF CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT KESLER NEEDED SURGERY A WEEK AFTER THE SEASON ENDED AND NOT AS LONG AS IT TOOK. BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENE AND MAYBE THEY HAD GOOD REASON TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE. POINTLESS THREAD OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zissou Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Paging Dr. Recchi, paging Dr. Recchi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 under the NHL's new protocol.... Daniel should have been in the "quiet room". The coaching and medical staff should be responsible for letting him play the next shift right after the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canidiot Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Well, I'd say we've pretty much come full circle. We had calls for AV, Bones, Gillis and Brown to be fired, virtually everyone on the roster to be traded.... ...about the only thing left was the medical/training staff. On the plus side, I think Pat O'Neill's job is safe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Leave all medical issues to Dr. Mark Recchi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rain Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Burnstein and/or the medical staff should be fired for their incompetent handling of the Daniel Sedin and other injuries. Should Daniel have played the pp shift after the Keith elbow? Ok, maybe a warrior like Daniel convinced Burnstein that he could play the next shift but he should have been sent back to Vancouver right away and not having to travel to Dallas first. Other examples of lousy assessments by training and medical staff - Mason Raymond should have been taken off on a stretcher in the Boston series; the wrong diagnosis on Cody Hodgson, etc. It even goes back to the Mike Robitaille lawsuit back in the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabbott Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 give ur head a shake mr troll, the staff is great. that was daniels call to skate the next shift. the only blunder is that may ray should have been carted off on a back board with c spin imbolization. Just a stretcher wouldn't have done anything but hockey players are taught at a young age to get to the bench if your hurt so im pretty sure it was may rays call on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Wrister73 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 But it isn't the training staff's job to 'diagnose'. They are more specifically "first response" when something happens on the ice and even those who've only taken a St Johns OFA level 1 Saturday course would assume a person has a spinal injury if:There's evidence of a head injury with an ongoing change in the person's level of consciousnessThe person complains of severe pain in his or her neck or backThe person won't move his or her neck or torsoAn injury has exerted substantial force on the back or headThe person complains of weakness, numbness or paralysis or lacks control of his or her limbs, bladder or bowelsThe neck or back is twisted or positioned oddly ...and in the case that any number of these were readily observed, you immobilize the patient C spine not encourage them to get up and skate off with the assistance of a couple of other players. I can still recall watching the Raymond injury unfold and asking WTF are they doing?? He's obviously suffered a spine related injury and they don't even immobilize him and handle him properly. They made the guy get to his feet and make his way to the bench so we could show those Bruins they aren't so tough. Imagine the consequences if that single action caused permanent and irreprable damage. The training staff should have been hauled up on the carpet for the handling of the Raymond injury without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I see some people here are both GMs as well as MDs. Wow. Such intellect on these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmotamed Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I blame the zamboni driver, I think he should be given life in prison with no possibility of parole, and his children should be put up for adoption... I mean REALLY now, come onnn!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kassasin#9 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Totally agree, then we can hire Dr. Recchi I commented before reading all the posts, here I thought I was being original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillooet_Hillbilly Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I've done level 3 OFA training twice. Raymond should have been given aid for spinal damage, trauma, had his head stabilized, and moved onto a stretcher within 15 minutes of the Aid worker arriving on site. Training staff should have been fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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