Understand Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 it's a little premature to say that schneider will never get to be a #1 here just yet. if luongo faulters in the playoffs, and the fans turn on him again, thats likely to be it for him in vancouver. then schneids becomes the #1. on a side note, the best organizations are the ones that keep the talent that they develop, not the ones that trade it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray-Ferraro's-Mustache Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 He has to get his shot at being a starting goalie and he won't get it here in Vancouver. And it's creating competitive but negative effects on the team especially going into the playoffs. Luongo is our No.1 and deservedly so. He has brought us here again to the top. He has been the most consistent player for the team all year. Is he capable of choking a game or two? Yes. Like most goalies who never made it into the Playoffs or got eliminated on the way. Are we at the top because of bad goaltending? Give Cory his shot and get rid of him this Summer. Many teams will grab him in a heartbeat. Is he better than Luongo? NOT EVEN CLOSE. Put him at the helm of starter, he won't fare so well I think. He still needs a few more seasons for that. His stats are great but mostly in part against teams management calculates he should be able to win in order for our No.1 to get rested. My prediction is if they get rid of Cory, he will be a starter for whoever grabs him he'll possibly squeak his team into the playoffs (Or not) next year while Lu will bring us back into the top 3 next year. Schneider can never take No.1 here. If he did, he would go the way of Snow or Cloutier. Loungo is the best we've ever had. Vancouver fans (Mostly bandwagoneers) will always find something to pick about no matter how good they have it. Without Lu, we would be doing exactly what Washington is doing right now. Struggling to stay in. Let Cory go and lets move on. I doubt if we'll regret it in the next 2 to 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Yea, it is such a lopsided and absurd trade that I am surprised I am responding to it. Teams won't be clamoring to take on an aging goalie on the downside of his career with so many years left on his absurd contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancity_77 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 He has to get his shot at being a starting goalie and he won't get it here in Vancouver. And it's creating competitive but negative effects on the team especially going into the playoffs. Luongo is our No.1 and deservedly so. He has brought us here again to the top. He has been the most consistent player for the team all year. Is he capable of choking a game or two? Yes. Like most goalies who never made it into the Playoffs or got eliminated on the way. Are we at the top because of bad goaltending? Give Cory his shot and get rid of him this Summer. Many teams will grab him in a heartbeat. Is he better than Luongo? NOT EVEN CLOSE. Put him at the helm of starter, he won't fare so well I think. He still needs a few more seasons for that. His stats are great but mostly in part against teams management calculates he should be able to win in order for our No.1 to get rested. My prediction is if they get rid of Cory, he will be a starter for whoever grabs him he'll possibly squeak his team into the playoffs (Or not) next year while Lu will bring us back into the top 3 next year. Schneider can never take No.1 here. If he did, he would go the way of Snow or Cloutier. Loungo is the best we've ever had. Vancouver fans (Mostly bandwagoneers) will always find something to pick about no matter how good they have it. Without Lu, we would be doing exactly what Washington is doing right now. Struggling to stay in. Let Cory go and lets move on. I doubt if we'll regret it in the next 2 to 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Corey Schneider will be gone at the draft and we will become a powerhouse team next year with the return from the trade. I forsee a new version of the west coast express and a top D-man comming our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goal-ghost Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 because you said so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyHockey Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I hope everyone keeps their expectations in check of what we will get in return so theres not a hundred threads discrediting MG if in fact he does get traded (most likely will). Halak was traded for Eller and Schultz Varlamov was traded for a 1st and 2nd. I expect something along those lines. Some of the proposals here make out the Canucks getting the 1st overall pick or 2-3 1st round picks (players +picks). I'm sorry to disappoint but that is a very very unlikely scenario. Cory is a great goalie and will be for a long time but the same argument is going to come out of every GM's mouth, "Hasn't played a full season" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler_smash Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 All I see here is another Luongo homer saying Luongo is the best not based on facts but based on his biased opinion. I agree it is likely that Schneider gets traded in the offseason but if Luongo chokes in the playoffs letting in 2+ soft goals in more than one game he better be shipped out over Schneider. If Luo chokes this playoffs and the Canucks still stick with him I think I'll go find another sport to watch. And as far as most consistent, that would be someone like Chris Higgins...hell Luongo isn't even the Canucks most consistent goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benzito Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Too soon bud. Too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyderr Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 How about Schneids and Schroeder and our first for Jake Gardiner and Torontos 1st sign shultz Hanhuis Tanev Bieksa Edler gardiner salo/shultz ballard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Well, I suppose it is a matter of opinion however, Columbus needs goaltending and they will probably get the first over all pick this year. Is it not possible, Schneider may go to Columbus? What about a first round pick from Tampa Bay, that is my guess and IMVHO, Schneider has opened many a GM's eye with his steller play. Don't sell him short and don't sell Gillis short either. I would bet there are several teams that would give up their first and seond round picks for Schneider. What about his scenerio. Vancouver wins the Stanley Cup. We all know Luongo wants tha honor very much. Suppose he waives his NT/NM clause to go to a team like Montreal (hometown) or Tampa Bay (his wife's old stamping grounds) I suggest the later as Stevie Y badly needs a goaltender. Here is another scenerio for you. Gillis has the upper hand due to the fact Schnedier is a RFA. Just maybe he says to hell with trading him, we give him an undisputable qualifying offer the team can afford, and we keep Cory for yet another year, of course giving him more games. The question there is "does Gillis really have to trade Schneider"? I say no, it is not essential. So as you say, to "dump" Schneider sounds a little coarse but it does not have to happen. Not saying he won't get traded but just suggesting Gillis is not desparate. As for Schneider and Luongo being together in Vancouver and being a negative influence to the team. That is simply ridiculous. The rumours hanging over the team about a goalie problem here is simply a media driven bunch of BS and anyone who gets caught up in that crap is being led around by the nose by that very same rabid media bunch. Maybe it is time some starting using good old common sense for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksu Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 I donno why people don't think Luongo can be traded. I think there is some chance Lui get traded though it's less than Cory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bure10fan Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Why so many goalie threads 3 games before the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 How about Schneids and Schroeder and our first for Jake Gardiner and Torontos 1st sign shultz Hanhuis Tanev Bieksa Edler gardiner salo/shultz ballard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone1 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 If we're gonna ride the hot goalie during the playoffs and both goalies aren't hot anymore, who do you go with? Luo or Schneider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 It's creating a negative impact on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradinToSmyl Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 If we're gonna ride the hot goalie during the playoffs and both goalies aren't hot anymore, who do you go with? Luo or Schneider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ṣpiderman Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 He has to get his shot at being a starting goalie and he won't get it here in Vancouver. And it's creating competitive but negative effects on the team especially going into the playoffs. Luongo is our No.1 and deservedly so. He has brought us here again to the top. He has been the most consistent player for the team all year. Is he capable of choking a game or two? Yes. Like most goalies who never made it into the Playoffs or got eliminated on the way. Are we at the top because of bad goaltending? Give Cory his shot and get rid of him this Summer. Many teams will grab him in a heartbeat. Is he better than Luongo? NOT EVEN CLOSE. Put him at the helm of starter, he won't fare so well I think. He still needs a few more seasons for that. His stats are great but mostly in part against teams management calculates he should be able to win in order for our No.1 to get rested. My prediction is if they get rid of Cory, he will be a starter for whoever grabs him he'll possibly squeak his team into the playoffs (Or not) next year while Lu will bring us back into the top 3 next year. Schneider can never take No.1 here. If he did, he would go the way of Snow or Cloutier. Loungo is the best we've ever had. Vancouver fans (Mostly bandwagoneers) will always find something to pick about no matter how good they have it. Without Lu, we would be doing exactly what Washington is doing right now. Struggling to stay in. Let Cory go and lets move on. I doubt if we'll regret it in the next 2 to 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Well said. LOL. Vancouver has such a knack of embracing it's goalies and then devouring them when they start to panic. Even back with Kirk it's always been the case. This lack of support is probably why we will never see the Stanley Cup in Vancouver. A part of me wishes they make Schneider No.1 so in a few months they can start devouring him and kick him to the curb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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