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#1 dudeone

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:19 AM

Atheist Students Encourage Christians to Exchange Their Bibles for…Pornography

By Billy Hallowell | The BlazeTue, Apr 3, 2012

http://news.yahoo.co...-013422828.html

Atheists have ramped up their efforts to gain greater respect and prominence in American society. While there are some non-believing organizations and groups that seek to have respectful debates with religious peoples, there are others that simply seek to poke fun at and incite the faith community.

Take for instance the Atheist Agenda, a student group at the University of Texas at San Antonio. The group setup a table on campus and promised to offer an exchange to anyone interested: Hand in a Bible or religious text and receive a pornographic magazine. They dubbed the event "Smut for Smut," in an apparent effort to frame the Bible as a book with comparable connotations to pornography.

The annual event, which can be traced back to 2008, is typically carried out to bring attention to the group. However, Kyle Bush, the president of Atheist Agenda, claims that the effort is also setup to spark conversation, while spreading freethinking sentiment.

"The point is not to hand out porn, but rather the primary purpose is to get people to come talk to us so we can get our message out," Bush explained. "We want to spread atheism and bring it more to the spotlight. We offer another alternative to people who might not fit in anywhere else."

While the event has been well-covered in the past, it barely attracted attention this year. While one can certainly argue that exchanging Bibles for pornographic material is an attention-getter, there are certainly less controversial ways of sparking debate and discussion.

WORLD on Campus has more about the somewhat cool response the campus group received this year:

The event caused an uproar on campus in 2008 and made headlines around the world. But this year, few students took notice. During the four hours Atheist Agenda members spent next to their signs each day, only about 30 people stopped by to get information about the club or start a debate. [...]

In addition to Bibles, the group offered to collect other religious texts, including the Quran, and any books written by prominent pastors, including Joel Osteen and Rick Warren. During the event, Atheist Agenda collected five Bibles, one Encyclopedia of Islam, and one Quran. The group plans to donate the books to a local library.

Despite the event's ability in previous years to attract attention for atheism, Bush said the group didn't have any financial backers outside its student members. The group raised all of the money needed to put on the event themselves, he said. One of the group's fundraisers included selling popsicles.


Considering that organizers needed to purchase signs, pornography and other essentials, the students had to pitch in to make the event happen. The group apparently purchased 140 pounds of smut magazines for only $30 on CraigsList.

There was mixed reaction to the Atheist Agenda's anti-Bible effort. While some disagreed fervently, many still felt as though it was the students' right to hold an event based on their beliefs (or lack thereof). Nearby, members of the school's Victory and Praise Choir sang worship songs and prayed in an effort to make their presence -- and stance against the event -- known.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:29 AM

Who would have thought porn would kill religion.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

"there are certainly less controversial ways of sparking debate and discussion. "

You don't say...

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:42 AM

Gee, their condemnation is exactly the same as those they "preach" against. Go figure.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:51 AM

Porn is so great.

You get porn for a bible, you basically fleeced the guy who gave you the porn.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:59 AM

Atheism in it's own way is just another religion.

You have the basic religions and atheism and all the activists seem to dedicate a lot of time and effort into spreading the word of their beliefs on everyone else while bashing the others views, it's really all the same.

Then you have people who just kind of drift through life not caring to explain the unexplainable and just living life.

Porn is so great.

You get porn for a bible, you basically fleeced the guy who gave you the porn.


Except you have to make the effort to go pick it up when any smart consumer could just go online and view any of the infinite amount of pictures and videos for free without ever leaving home.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:59 AM

Porn is so great.

You get porn for a bible, you basically fleeced the guy who gave you the porn.


That's like trading Stojanov for Naslund

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

Atheism in it's own way is just another religion.

You have the basic religions and atheism and all the activists seem to dedicate a lot of time and effort into spreading the word of their beliefs on everyone else while bashing the others views, it's really all the same.

Then you have people who just kind of drift through life not caring to explain the unexplainable and just living life.



Except you have to make the effort to go pick it up when any smart consumer could just go online and view any of the infinite amount of pictures and videos for free without ever leaving home.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

While I'm certainly against any effort to shut down the event, it is in terrible taste.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:07 PM

I would have thought THINKING would have got rid of religion.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:09 PM

I would have thought THINKING would have got rid of religion.


"If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people."

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:12 PM

Atheism in it's own way is just another religion.

You have the basic religions and atheism and all the activists seem to dedicate a lot of time and effort into spreading the word of their beliefs on everyone else while bashing the others views, it's really all the same.

Then you have people who just kind of drift through life not caring to explain the unexplainable and just living life.



Except you have to make the effort to go pick it up when any smart consumer could just go online and view any of the infinite amount of pictures and videos for free without ever leaving home.

Wrong.
Atheism to me is free thinking.
I was never told to not believe in god. I chose to. Christians were told there is a god. They're told to obey the bible etc etc.
I follow the laws, and have my own morals, set by my own standards, families standards, and friends standards. Not by some made up, dated book

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:13 PM

Atheism in it's own way is just another religion.


Perhaps you mean "way of thinking".


There's really a very big difference.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:13 PM

Gee, their condemnation is exactly the same as those they "preach" against. Go figure.


That's the first thing I noticed too, the irony of it. I've come to expect it though.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:14 PM

Wrong.
Atheism to me is free thinking.
I was never told to not believe in god. I chose to. Christians were told there is a god. They're told to obey the bible etc etc.
I follow the laws, and have my own morals, set by my own standards, families standards, and friends standards. Not by some made up, dated book


What do four free thinkers look like?

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

What do four free thinkers look like?

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Not for long. 3 of them have religious parents.
One of them will be molested by a priest.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:21 PM

Wrong.
Atheism to me is free thinking.
I was never told to not believe in god. I chose to. Christians were told there is a god. They're told to obey the bible etc etc.
I follow the laws, and have my own morals, set by my own standards, families standards, and friends standards. Not by some made up, dated book


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“Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all.” - G.K. Chesterton

“Unbelief is as much of a choice as belief is. What makes it in many ways more appealing is that whereas to believe in something requires some measure of understanding and effort, not to believe doesn't require much of anything at all.” - Frederick Buechner

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:23 PM

Not for long. 3 of them have religious parents.
One of them will be molested by a priest.


Kind sir, I do believe you missed my point. Atheism and free thinking are not one and the same, as indicated by the atheist babies who can't really think yet.

I suppose according to mr. Tebow, they're practicing the atheist ritual of curiosity and smiling. :bigblush:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

I would have thought THINKING would have got rid of religion.


"Thinking" got me into religion.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

Not for long. 3 of them have religious parents.
One of them will be molested by a priest.


Bad form....bad form...

Why didn't you say something about their atheist teacher offering better grades for sex?

Okay...that was just as bad...

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:38 PM

Bad form....bad form...

Why didn't you say something about their atheist teacher offering better grades for sex?

Okay...that was just as bad...


Make more false equivalences, please!

Or are you saying atheist teachers have a history stretching hundreds of years back of offering better grades for sex? :sadno:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

Make more false equivalences, please!

Or are you saying atheist teachers have a history stretching hundreds of years back of offering better grades for sex? :sadno:


I'm saying humans are bad - regardless of their beliefs/way of life.

Proof? Just look at the comments people make in threads like this one and others here...just look at the world and the crime...
My favourite quote from Planet of the Apes:

"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death. "

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

I'm saying humans are bad - regardless of their beliefs/way of life.

Proof? Just look at the comments people make in threads like this one and others here...just look at the world and the crime...
My favourite quote from Planet of the Apes:

"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death. "


Le sigh. You have a true gift in lacking comprehension. :sadno:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

Make more false equivalences, please!

Or are you saying atheist teachers have a history stretching hundreds of years back of offering better grades for sex? :sadno:


You know consumer reports? In particular around cars? Do you know statistics?

Here's the "false equivalences" for you.

10,000 Corrolas are sold againt 100,000 Escorts.
There were 10 times as many issues with people reporting on Escorts than Corrolas - so that makes them a far less reliable car.
Yet the percentage is the same.

So, just because 1 out of 100 priests (for arguments sake, I have no idea what the ratio is) doers NOT mean all priests do bad things. Nor does it mean all Religion is bad. Just like when a non religious person commits a crime or does something bad does NOT mean all non religious people are bad.

I have probably said something similar to that over a hundred times here on CDC and some people just don't get it...

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 12:51 PM

Le sigh. You have a true gift in lacking comprehension. :sadno:


And you have a true gift...nope...can't think of any gifts you have...plenty of negatives though...but who am I to judge? Right?

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:07 PM

You know consumer reports? In particular around cars? Do you know statistics?

Here's the "false equivalences" for you.

10,000 Corrolas are sold againt 100,000 Escorts.
There were 10 times as many issues with people reporting on Escorts than Corrolas - so that makes them a far less reliable car.
Yet the percentage is the same.

So, just because 1 out of 100 priests (for arguments sake, I have no idea what the ratio is) doers NOT mean all priests do bad things. Nor does it mean all Religion is bad. Just like when a non religious person commits a crime or does something bad does NOT mean all non religious people are bad.

I have probably said something similar to that over a hundred times here on CDC and some people just don't get it...

And you have a true gift...nope...can't think of any gifts you have...plenty of negatives though...but who am I to judge? Right?


How about... comprehension? :lol:

Here, let me show you it:

He said "one will be molested by a priest", right? Where does that say how many priests molest children? It is a comment on the number of children affected. You seem to have missed that. Instead, what you got out of his statement "all priests do bad things" and "all religion is bad".

And yes, it is a false equivalency when you pit a single case of an atheist teacher who sold grades for sex with institutionalized child abuse, where the head of the current Catholic church is implicated in shuffling known child molesters around, records of child abuse stretch hundreds of years back, and hundreds of thousands of children around the globe have been affected.

The discussion has nothing to do with "people are bad", that's just your way of dismissing any criticism of Christians. I enjoy when you act all Christian-like. I'm sure Jesus is next to you right now, telling you to not judge me by telling me how terrible I am. :lol:

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:10 PM

Wrong.
Atheism to me is free thinking.
I was never told to not believe in god. I chose to. Christians were told there is a god. They're told to obey the bible etc etc.
I follow the laws, and have my own morals, set by my own standards, families standards, and friends standards. Not by some made up, dated book


Im not getting in some religious debate especially when I am not on any side.

The point was those extreme atheists function just the same as extreme religious people.

People don't see the real issue. I have no issue with any belief but I have an issue with people for force beliefs of any kind and then blows up when someone disagrees. For example I have friends who are both atheist and religious but we aren't friends because of those beliefs, if every time we hung out I had to listen to the religious or anti religious babble we wouldn't be friends because it's simply annoying. It's the same way with politics, democrat republical whatever I'm friends with both but I could not sit and listen to ether side argue politics frequently. Lets go farther off the topic, I don't smoke pot but have friends that do, if they were constantly telling me how great pot is and constantly pushing me to smoke pot it would be annoying and I wouldn't be friends with them very long. Heck if I go on a date with a vegan girl and she keeps harassing me to eat more salad and less steak it's going to be annoying and it won't last long.

Pushing anything on someone is just stupid especially when done in such a provoking manor. From the side of a guy who just lives life making decisions based on the best of the individual I don't and never will push my views on others. If someone wants to listen to those views then great but seriously insulting someone elses belief with such poor taste just to spread your views is completely immature and unproductive. I mean when someone like Tebow prays after a game or Josh Hamilton thanks God in an interview some atheists literally act like they threatened to blow up the white house. Or when people go bonkers and refuse to say the pledge of allegiance in the USA because it has the words "under God" in it. None of this should be that offensive.

The bottom line is the world will never have a universial mind, humans will always be diverse with numerous different views and believes and people need to get over it and learn to be civil and respectful because it will never change.

That's all I will say on the subject, agree to disagree if you must.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:11 PM

"Thinking" got me into religion.


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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:13 PM

How about... comprehension? :lol:

Here, let me show you it:

He said "one will be molested by a priest", right? Where does that say how many priests molest children? It is a comment on the number of children affected. You seem to have missed that. Instead, what you got out of his statement "all priests do bad things" and "all religion is bad".

And yes, it is a false equivalency when you pit a single case of an atheist teacher who sold grades for sex with institutionalized child abuse, where the head of the current Catholic church is implicated in shuffling known child molesters around, records of child abuse stretch hundreds of years back, and hundreds of thousands of children around the globe have been affected.

The discussion has nothing to do with "people are bad", that's just your way of dismissing any criticism of Christians. I enjoy when you act all Christian-like. I'm sure Jesus is next to you right now, telling you to not judge me by telling me how terrible I am. :lol:


Speaking of comprehension...or more like lack of comprehension.

:picard: It doesn't - but where does it say 1 in 4 will be molested by a priest?

It's just a big fat joke to you isn't it?
As long as it's not something you follow - then it's a joke.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:15 PM

:picard:


Are you saying we shouldn't "think"?

Sorry, contrary to Scorpio Ego's popular belief, not every Christian is a mindless sheep.

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