Bodee Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I think Kass will be good for us............but not this year and not in these playoffs. He didn't seem to understand his roll or the system. He's a young guy and quite honestly it all looks too much for him just now. I'm not in the "he's a bust camp" but I do think he should get some coaching in Chicago for a season. I would add in his defence that sometimes it didn't look like we had much of a system at all. We need to stop playing the opposition and start playing our game. We don't pass enough, early enough or quickly enough and end up just shunting it up the ice. He certainly was no worse than Bitz though, who until he deservedly got taken out of the game was invisible. It seems he only has any upside when playing with the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010Canucks Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Nope he isn't and Hodgson was, take a look at our pp since trading Hodgson 17% before that it was sitting around 25% I believe. Guess that's what happens when you trade your 2nd pp line's centre. and 3rd leading goal scorer on the team... Still baffles me why he was traded, if he wanted out his value would have only gone up after winning a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js604 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I appreciate his efforts in the 1st game and his attempt to try to be physical, but he is simply out skilled and not bringing much to the game. Yes, we have a stronger defense thanks in part to having 2 checking lines, but I really wish we had more offense too.. When we are down by a goal or 2 it is so hard to climb back up. With Daniel gone, we could really use Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Zack Kassian looks like a deer caught in the headlights out there. He simply does not look ready for the NHL right now and whoever scouted him for the Canucks prior to the trade should be fired. I understand Cody might have wanted out but the Canucks didn't have to trade him now and if they did they really should have got a guy who has more experience and might have actually helped the Canucks in the Playoffs this year and over the next couple of years. I am really starting to get the impression that the only reason Kassian is still making the line-up right now is because if he didn't it would look really bad on Gillis. He has really contributed next to nothing for the Canucks for about a month now. Maybe one day he will be a solid NHL'er but so far I am been thoroughly unimpressed by his game and he looks more like Alex Stojanov 2.0 than the next Milan Lucic to me. Yeah he can skate a bit but he just doesn't seem to have a good feel for the game and I have my doubts that he will ever amount to much in the NHL. It seems like the NHL game is just too fast for him mentally if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumquats Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Kassian is Hodgson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Sure we can! Not Kassian, now that he's here, he deserves every crack at developing & earning his place. The trade! Pahlsson was a great pick up. Cost us next to nothing; same for Higgins & Lapierre last year. Veterans who have something to offer, perhaps playing with a chip on their shoulder willing to take a 4th line role. Then re-use that role to earn their traditional spot up the lineup; thats a great playoff pickup! Kassian cost us the best prospect we've had in 10 years. I would have expected Jarome Iginla! Or if we were after futures Bogosian, in a position we truly needed depth. Kassian will probably be fine in 2 years; but there's a good chance by then the Sedin's will be past their prime. Unless Kassian starts putting up Gordie Howe hat tricks in the playoff's, who cares? And I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I agree with the OP. I dont see that this year! He's young, first playoff type experience, not used to the Canucks system and has a buttload of expectation heaped on him. Kassian wasn't meant to make a DRASTIC experience this season but in the coming future, relax. You can't call him a bust yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane 36 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hodgson would choke in the playoffs like he did last season (one assist in 12 games with -4 rating) and I'd rather have a non-scoring checker. Besides, part of the deal was to get gragnani over sulzer and if you think sulzer is better because he has more points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Well I bet the Sabres wouldn't trade Hodgson back for Kassian now so it probably would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Zack Kassian looks like a deer caught in the headlights out there. He simply does not look ready for the NHL right now and whoever scouted him for the Canucks prior to the trade should be fired. I understand Cody might have wanted out but the Canucks didn't have to trade him now and if they did they really should have got a guy who has more experience and might have actually helped the Canucks in the Playoffs this year and over the next couple of years. I am really starting to get the impression that the only reason Kassian is still making the line-up right now is because if he didn't it would look really bad on Gillis. He has really contributed next to nothing for the Canucks for about a month now. Maybe one day he will be a solid NHL'er but so far I am been thoroughly unimpressed by his game and he looks more like Alex Stojanov 2.0 than the next Milan Lucic to me. Yeah he can skate a bit but he just doesn't seem to have a good feel for the game and I have my doubts that he will ever amount to much in the NHL. It seems like the NHL game is just too fast for him mentally if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Kassian was one of the few players who I thought was actually into the game last night. He made some nice plays in the corner, worked hard, was in on the forecheck. Not sure what else you could have asked from him. I'd like to see him up with Kes.......maybe some of that would rub off on kes, who was one of the worst players on the ice last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_man08 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I agree. He needs to be sent down to AHL to be seasoned. Reinprecht should be up since he's a vet and can probably play 4th line minutes in a much more effective manner. We have bitz and others now for team 'toughness' We need to stick to Canucks brand of hockey that has made us successful. There is a reason I cheer for Canucks and not Bruins.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 How can anyone say there had been a system in place since the trade dead line?!?! Seriously give your collective heads a shake. Av has been juggling lines and d pairings non stop as well as the significant injury to Dank. I really wonder what system there is for kassian to learn since arriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I liked the way Kassian looked last night. At different points he was clearly getting into the heads of the opposition. His penalty was questionable (I have seen that not called on several occasions). If he can keep Matt Greene busy with the rough stuff that is a good thing. I would much rather have Kassian out there getting this experience than Dale Weise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hodgson may have made an Brayden Schenn-type impact on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I agree. He needs to be sent down to AHL to be seasoned. Reinprecht should be up since he's a vet and can probably play 4th line minutes in a much more effective manner. We have bitz and others now for team 'toughness' We need to stick to Canucks brand of hockey that has made us successful. There is a reason I cheer for Canucks and not Bruins.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 He didn't crack the Sabres roster... How would he crack ours? Not a good trade from the start anyway.... MG, if we don't win this year, it's actually all your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hodgson may have made an Brayden Schenn-type impact on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hodgson may have made an Brayden Schenn-type impact on the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_man08 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Yeah Bitz really did his job last night, his dumb hit and major cost us the game last night. One thing Kassian does in his limmited minutes is keep the Kings honest not one of them wants go with him they just beak off and skate away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeria Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 He didn't crack the Sabres roster... How would he crack ours? Not a good trade from the start anyway.... MG, if we don't win this year, it's actually all your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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