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#1 drukes1234

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:21 AM

Via various twitter reports, Daniel is currently skating at Rogers Arena by himself.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:22 AM

Cmonn Danny!! We need you!!


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:22 AM

This to me confirms that he had a setback and they obviously are now a few steps back from a week ago. Hopefully the light skate goes well today, then he can skate with the team, if all goes well then we'd see him back MAYBE by game 3 but game 4 with the big break seems realistic IF these skates go well.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

If he did in fact have a setback, like I suspect, it's interesting that he did not go back to step 1 in protocol.

Maybe there is something to that Pratt report saying he would be back game 3.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

With the way things are going, I'd be surprised if he makes it to Game 4. Unless this series goes to Game 7 - or Canucks are down 2-1 or 3-1 in the series -, I wouldn't expect to see Daniel against Kings.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:27 AM

If he did in fact have a setback, like I suspect, it's interesting that he did not go back to step 1 in protocol.

Maybe there is something to that Pratt report saying he would be back game 3.


He did go back a few steps in protocol. I'm making assumptions here but most likely they're accurate. He had the headaches after the full practice, took a skate with the black aces and still had headaches, they shut him down for a few days and then go him on the bike. He was ok after riding the bike, now he skates by himself. If today goes well he will skate with the team, if that goes well, he plays.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:29 AM

I'm thrilled that he's out there on the ice but I don't want to see him back on the ice playing until he's 100%. Concussions are nasty, nasty things and I'd much rather have to wait and have him come back completely healthy than see him struggling out there and get hit again and suffer far more serious and long lasting effects. I'll be very surprised if we see him before the possibility of Round 2.

Keep getting healthy, Daniel, we'll wait for you no matter how long it takes! :)

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:30 AM

He did go back a few steps in protocol. I'm making assumptions here but most likely they're accurate. He had the headaches after the full practice, took a skate with the black aces and still had headaches, they shut him down for a few days and then go him on the bike. He was ok after riding the bike, now he skates by himself. If today goes well he will skate with the team, if that goes well, he plays.


It seems to me the protocol is more of a guideline. Obviously they are handling this differently than they would in the regular season.

I don't think there's anyway he will play tonight but this is certainly good news. I was fearing the worst yesterday.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:30 AM

This to me confirms that he had a setback and they obviously are now a few steps back from a week ago. Hopefully the light skate goes well today, then he can skate with the team, if all goes well then we'd see him back MAYBE by game 3 but game 4 with the big break seems realistic IF these skates go well.

Yep. If he didn't have a setback he'd be doing game-like drills, then proceed with skating and practicing with the team. I am very curious as to what a sports team's concussion protocols are. As per general guidelines, an athlete can be introduced to practice or perform any strenuating activity only until 7 days after his last concussion symptom.
i.e. if Daniel experienced his last symptom 2 days ago (11th) then he shouldn't be skating until the 18th.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:31 AM

NHL head injury/concussion protocol states that any head injured player that has 'headaches' following an on ice workout must stop skating for ten full days-land training only.

So,Henrik and Daniel's dad is in big doo-doo.

Dan should not be on the ice if Senior Sedin was telling the truth and Dan is suffering headaches.

Also.what are the Canucks doing going against NHL medical protocol regarding an injury of such a serious nature?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:31 AM

I'm thrilled that he's out there on the ice but I don't want to see him back on the ice playing until he's 100%. Concussions are nasty, nasty things and I'd much rather have to wait and have him come back completely healthy than see him struggling out there and get hit again and suffer far more serious and long lasting effects. I'll be very surprised if we see him before the possibility of a Round 2.

of Keep getting healthy, Daniel, we'll wait for you no matter how long it takes! :)



Yup, and I believe we can beat the Kings without him.

Recover well Daniel :)
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:35 AM

Also.what are the Canucks doing going against NHL medical protocol regarding an injury of such a serious nature?


What actual information do you possess in this matter?
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:36 AM

Duncannnn Keithhhhh!!!!! *shakes fist*

I don't think I've ever rooted for another team as I am for the Yotes. Only til they take out the Hawks. ;)

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:37 AM

What actual information do you possess in this matter?


Last night's Sunsational on CKNW 98.

What actual information are you unclear on?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:40 AM

Protocol might be, as far as skating:


1. rest without skating until symptom free for 2 consecutive days.
2. light skate solo for 2 days. if symptoms, return to 1
3. heavy workout skate for 2 days. if symptoms, return to 1
4. skate with team, no contact for 2 days. if symptoms, return to 1
5. skate with team, contact for 2 days. if symptoms, return to 1
6. participate in team practice. if symptoms, return to 1. Or to 2?

Just said 2 consecutive days of anything, as the next day / night is when you see symptoms.

Anyways, that would be 11 days from any set-back to practicing with the team. it sounds "sort of" right, but that obviously isn't 100% correct, and over-simplified. But "fairly" close? Does anyone know the proper protocol? would be interesting to know what it is...

But if that is right, the 9th was a team practice, then there was a slight setback - headaches according to sweden. Then the 10th was a light skate but symptoms were there as he didn't skate the next day - as far as we know.

If he is starting to skate again today, then the 21st would be the first time he would be able to have a practice with the team. First possible time-back would be game 5, but they would likely give him a few practices with the team, and try him for game 6.

So prediction is: Game 6, unless another setback.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:40 AM

Last night's Sunsational on CKNW 98.

What actual information are you unclear on?


Ah, the radio. I'll ask again, are you privy to any REAL information on the current situation?
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:40 AM

Duncannnn Keithhhhh!!!!! *shakes fist*

I don't think I've ever rooted for another team as I am for the Yotes. Only til they take out the Hawks. ;)


If I remember correctly I think if you look at all of the Coyotes goals, ex-canucks were in on all of them.

1st: pyatt scores
2nd: assist torres
3rd: assist aucoin


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:41 AM

hank looks lost without him

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:41 AM

He's getting better it looks like. Hopefully he can be ready by game 3/4.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:42 AM

NHL head injury/concussion protocol states that any head injured player that has 'headaches' following an on ice workout must stop skating for ten full days-land training only.

So,Henrik and Daniel's dad is in big doo-doo.

Dan should not be on the ice if Senior Sedin was telling the truth and Dan is suffering headaches.

Also.what are the Canucks doing going against NHL medical protocol regarding an injury of such a serious nature?

I would say if it came down to it the Canucks would claim that Daniel did not have any concussion symptoms but was simply not ready to play yet. Similar to the Hawks way of doing it where you actually know they are going against the protocol.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:49 AM

@vancanucks

Daniel Sedin just left the ice after skating pre-practice with a handful of #Canucks.#reigningCanucks

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:49 AM

Ah, the radio. I'll ask again, are you privy to any REAL information on the current situation?


Well,the Sun has reporters that follow the team as a full time job and that is what the NHL protocol states ,according to the Vancouver Sun's Brad Zeimer last night on NW-10 pm.

Open up your ears and it may open up your mind to a whole new world of information you do not have now,

Both Brad and Dan are quoting the NHL and the 'protocol'. So ,yeah,the Canucks are bending 'protocol'. Surprise.

The Canucks would never do that so it must be all nonesense.Not to worry.

Here's the link so you can hear it yourself:

http://www.cknw.com/...ault/index.aspx

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 09:59 AM

i hate duncan keith

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:11 AM

Well,the Sun has reporters that follow the team as a full time job and that is what the NHL protocol states ,according to the Vancouver Sun's Brad Zeimer last night on NW-10 pm.

Open up your ears and it may open up your mind to a whole new world of information you do not have now,

Both Brad and Dan are quoting the NHL and the 'protocol'. So ,yeah,the Canucks are bending 'protocol'. Surprise.

The Canucks would never do that so it must be all nonesense.Not to worry.

Here's the link so you can hear it yourself:

http://www.cknw.com/...ault/index.aspx


I can openly admit I have exactly zero time to spend listening to the clowns in the media in this market. What does Gallagher have to say? Or Botchford?

I am not asking you about what the protocol is. I am asking you if you have any actual evidence, medical evidence. Or is the radio your source?
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:12 AM

He'll be back for Round 2...I doubt any sooner.

Or he'll have a very long off season to rest if LA wins.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

Can't he just man up? I doubt Toews is playing without symptoms.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:20 AM

Put Higgins on the top line please.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:22 AM

Put Higgins on the top line please.


This is how it works, Taking Higgins off a line wrecks the line..... Taking Raymond off a line fixes it.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:23 AM

it wont help the team if he rushes back and then takes a hit that could sideline him for the entire playoffs.
better to shoot for game 4 or 5 and heal as much as possible.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:24 AM

Sean Payton says 10,000.00 for Keith's head............

Reality of this situation is that the NHL is doing a crappy job protecting players from head injuries.

Getting 5 games is laughable when it takes more than 5 to come back from a concussion. The minimum should be 10-20 games for a deliberate head shot resulting in injury. Playoff games should equal 3 games.

Side note: i am a big Shea Weber fan but that WWE head slam on Zetterberg should have landed him a suspension as well.

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