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I Thought The Hodgson Trade Was Suppose To Make Us Better For The Playoffs


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#271 Samuel Påhlsson

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 05:58 AM

If you think Kassian couldn't make a difference on the pp then you are dillusional. The fact AV will not even try him there for one pp shift. (I don't know if he did last game since I had work and only got to see the highlights) is ridiculous. I mean Kassian is strong in the corners and is a +1 and when we scored he was infront of the net. He would be more effective then Burrows in my opinion and would accomplish more since Burrows is more of a 5 on 5 player. Then again I'm not an NHL coach so what do I know.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 06:06 AM

Grags is a scratch and Kassian just has not really been effective and our PP has suffered with out Hodgson since the deal .

Like i have said from day one this deal was one to be made in the off season if at all .



I still get worked up about this trade. I utter shock of myself when I saw it, much like Bieksa's face when he was asked about it on HNIC my face drops to the floor. This is a huge trade, more than just losing a kid with unreal potential. This totally screwed with our chemistry, not to mention our second PP unit. They showed the kid how to be a professional, how to dress even. In videos he almost seemed to be the little brother to the guys on the team. So maybe the trade needed to happen but like the OP says, in the offseason if at all.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 08:32 AM

Hodgson wouldn't have changed this series. All people mention is some clutch goals he scored against Boston(a reg season game btw). People seem to forget he had like 3 points 13 games prior to the trade and 0 for like 10 games afterwards. The Canucks PP has been awful since the Boston game in January and that was a long stretch with Hodgson on the 2nd unit. Plain and simple this team hasn't been the same in the 2nd half and these deadline deals neither helped or hurt

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 08:36 AM

Everyone knows AV hates younger players. Kassian doesn't have a chance.

Hodgson wasn't given a chance - remember all the "ice time" threads?

And Tanev only got better cause he was with MacTavish in Chicago all year. No reason that he shouldn't have been playing with the big club, saving Salo for the end game... but no... now Salo looks dead tired and slow.

Kassian showed potential first few games - he showed glimpses of what he could be if given a chance.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 08:46 AM

I like Kassian, but the trade just never made a whole lot of sense to me. I'm not necessarily posting this now because I think Hodgson would have been a huge difference maker against the Kings either. I think that he would have helped; but at the end of the day, Quick is playing lights out.

No, what bothered me about the trade was Gillis' whole "We are emmulating the Detroit model." If that's the case, Detroit would have never given up on Hodgson; instead, they would have managed his reported unhappiness. Kassian is a good kid and a force on the ice, but how often are teams looking for a number 1 centre? I guarantee that Babcock and co. would have created an environment that would have made it possible for Sedin, Kesler, and Hodgson to co-exist.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 08:47 AM

Hopefully Kassian turns into the player you'd be nuts to trade away, but right now we're not seeing it.

The fact Gillis traded away Hodgson for another prospect and not a playoff-proven vet should've gave everyone a big clue on what our expectations should've been for these playoffs. Cheers.


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Posted 17 April 2012 - 09:47 AM

Imagine how awesome this team would be if it had kept Grabner and Hodgson? The offensive power would be deadly. They are giving away too many valuable prospects and getting jack s**t in return except a waste of cap space. And Gillis should have definitiely kept Torres and at least have tried a little harder to find a way to keep Ehrhoff. If I recall the negotiations ended rather abruptly, and it makes me wonder if Gillis gave up too quickly. Puck moving d men of his calibre dont come around often and he was so important to the power play. Then Bitz and Duco would fit nicely on the 4th line with Lapierre and provide the needed grit and toughness, and then all they would need to focus on is finding another good solid defenseman and they would be set. Presto, there you have a real contender.


Here's an even better imaginary scenario:

Dave Nonis doesn't screw up the 2006 entry draft and picks the 6'4" 220lbs centre Patrik Berglund instead of Grabner.

The 2008 entry draft rolls around and Gillis has his future #1 centre already (Berglund) so he drafts the 6'8" 227lbs defenceman Zdeno Chara, I mean, Tyler Myers to replace the recently deceased 6'3" 210lbs defenceman Luc Bourdon instead and the Sabres pick Hodgson at #12.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Higgins Kesler Booth
Raymond Berglund Hansen
Malhotra Pahlsson Bitz

Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Myers
Rome Tanev

Edited by Millerdraft, 17 April 2012 - 09:50 AM.

Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.


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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:10 PM

It was a team1040 radio interview with Gillis but that is not actually a direct quote and I put the obstruction answer as part of the answer to that question when in fact the interviewer (BMac iirc) asked a follow up question about whether or not the league was purposely not calling hooking/holding pims. The only part that is verbatim is, "Did you do this begrudgingly?" and the emphatic "Yes. I believe offensive hockey..."


This link references the interview it looks like.

http://headtothe.net...get-used-to-it/


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It is not my intent to get in circular arguments with anybody. The reason i have avoided saying anything specific is because i know you or someone else will attempt to find an alternate explanation to my points which i intern will have to defend. I see no point in getting involved with the circular argument that is already well under way in this thread. I simply intended to voice my opinion on the subject. In the end either you accept the possibility of corruption and conspiracy or you don't.

Also i find your comments to be very childish. Does taking what i say out of context, paraphrasing and misquoting it make you feel good about yourself? Grow up.


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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:20 PM

Even if Hodgson was here he would of not made a difference, the only player that would of is Daniel and thats it enough said.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:50 PM

This link references the interview it looks like.

http://headtothe.net...get-used-to-it/


That's the interview, yes. Nice find. Links the audio of the full interview, too.

http://www.teamradio...eres-and-price/

Edited by Millerdraft, 18 April 2012 - 12:11 AM.

Kassian.... Taylor Pyatt 3.0

Lies. He's more of a Steve Bernier. Hopefully his talent level goes up so he can become like a Taylor Pyatt.





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