kesler_is_clutch Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 This team plays so much better in front of shneids and proved it will a sparkling stats! The coach needs to start him because they come out harder and play better D! Lui has been alright but 2 shorthand goals I know it was the teams fault but he really should of saved them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino Odjick Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Are you f**king kidding me? Seriously, time to let last year's final go and LIVE IN THE PRESENT. Luongo's past performances has nothing to do with this series. Stop holding a grudge and stay objective. You think changing to Schneider is just gonna make the team better? You think they will turn this series around with Schneider in goal? If so, THEN YOU HAVEN*T EVEN SEEN THESE PAST TWO GAMES. This fanbase is a joke and Vancouver deserve all the hate they get when you act like this. Pathetic. How can you live with yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 First game we lost pretty much because of Kesler (Or at least he was the major contributor) so perhaps we should bench him to shake things up; maybe move him down to the 4th line even. Probably doesn't sound like a good idea right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbotsfoiler Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 New thing to do in VAN="the luongo flop". RL makes some great saves but to ofton the ones he lets in ,he is laying on his belly flopping around. Put CS in net, team seems to play different in front of him and send RL back to Florida. IMO after signing big bucks long term he still runs back to Florida and doesnt commit to VAN city or the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (Name calling) A pretty typical response on here when you have no real answer!! If the definition of a "troll" is someone who calls it like it is....then yes I guess I am a troll ...maybe if a few more trolls came out of the woodwork though we would have better luck getting Management to do the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 If we had someone not playing that had a realistic chance of outperforming Kesler then he should sit. Do we have anyone sitting out who has more goals. assists and his better than Kesler? Because I do believe we have a goalie with better numbers in every category than Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Even in the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afan Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The 5 on 3 goal in game 1 was a bad goal. Luongo was beaten hundred of times by the same Brown move in breakaways. Luongo always gives up a goal when the goal mouth scrambles last more than a few seconds as in goal number 3. Luongo's pads were glued to the ice forever to give Lewis half of an empty net to wrap around. The Ds are in disarray playing in front of Luongo because all pucks thrown on net are redirected to the corners when Luongo is playing ping pong in goal and Vancouver was lucky to have all Ds surviving the fierce forechecks by the big Kings and not one went down with injury. Quick simply shut the door and Luongo is badly outplayed. The only chance for Vancouver is to replace the mediocre at best Luongo with Schneider who gives up almost half a goal less than Luongo per game and has a better save percentage than Quick. Get one back in LA and Vancouver are back in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 If the team played consistently better with Kesler out and we had someone that played that role and did it as well or better than Kesler,,then of course I would sit Kesler in the playoffs. Whoever gives us the best chance to win should play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beer&meat Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 pretty easy living with myself, its just hard for others to live with me. 1 st goal in game 1 , 5 hole from the goal line, that is a goal Luo gives up but shouldn't. Brown's breakaway, is a goal Lou give up but other hot goalies don't. Lou might be the best player on the Canucks but he is not the best player or goalie in this series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Luongo has been the best Canuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey!? Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 If the team played consistently better with Kesler out and we had someone that played that role and did it as well or better than Kesler,,then of course I would sit Kesler in the playoffs. Whoever gives us the best chance to win should play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckelhead70 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Straight up the kings are all over the Canucks right now. Them seem faster and always putting pessure on the Canucks and they have no time or space to make plays. Hansen seemed to be 4 feet away from Sedin or Burrows, I think AV needs to put Lappy on the first line. Kas to the pressbox and Weise in. Go Canucks Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Consistently better? Interesting choice of words...perhaps you should explain how Schneider has consistently outperformed Luongo in the playoffs. Again...the motor is in the front of the car. Changing out the muffler doesn't help the pistons. There are far bigger problem than Luongo...mainly because Luongo hasn't been a part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 To say "it's not Luongo's fault" is saying you don't expect great goaltending anymore to win Stanley cup. But you expect the 20 other guys to play a play a picture perfect game every night, to win the STanley cup. Which is impossible you guys need to be aware of that. There are times were we will be out played, and there are also times, teams will generage a good scoring chance against us. To win the Stanley cup, you need great goaltending, we aren't getting it, L.A isn't getting it. ARe the Canucks playing good? Not really, but you need to understand, we need crucial saves from him time to time. For example game 1. For me, I don't think that 3rd was acceptable for me. It wasn't. Have he stopped that, that game would have gone to Over time. Game 2. Not allowing the crucial goal with 8 seconds left. Timing. Game 2. I know it's our fault, but maybe stop of 1 of the 2 short handers by Dustin Brown. Great Goaltending would have helped us a lot. These are momenting changing times in a game. What you guys are saying right now, is sayinig, it's never his fault. Your excuse of defending him, is the same excuse people used on DAn Cloutier. He was choking in the playoffs, they were mad that the defensive coverage was not good enough. Every shot on goal against us is a defensive break down, so it feels like even if Luongo let in 27 goals last night you guys will say, "oh it's not his fault, it's defensive coverage." F in B.S to me. Last night was not "great goaltending" at all. Pittsburgh is feeling the same way right now.. YOu guys are now saying "Well it's not his fault, he's playing good! Blame the team! Blame the coach! Blame the management. Blame everyone else because of 1 player." Right now i'm not blaming it on Luongo, but you guys are now saying, it's Not Luongo's fault! Blame it on 24 other guys! W.T.F is this. Your honestly going to tell me, that 4 goals on 27 shots is good are you? Maybe have we not fell behind, and not play from behind, we will have a better chance at winning? If you say "Luongo is playing great the 1st 2 games" Your an idiot. That's not great goaltending at all. If you ask me, everyone needs to step it up. That is all. Stop slamming the team now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Cory has not consistently outperformed Lou in the playoffs because he is in his 2nd year and the coach would rather leave his man Lou in net for 8 goals and then start him the next game. If AV used Cory in a few important games in last years regular season I think Cory would have been much better in his 1 start. Over the season Cory has played better than Lou and it is not only the numbers that are farf superior,,you can see his positioning is better,,you can see he is calmer,,you can see he is quicker. Only thing Cory sucks at is handling the puck, which can be learned,,,not losing your stick and losing sight of the puck and panicking like Lou is not something that can be fixed. If your engine is fubarred you won't fix it by rubbing it and saying,,it's ok,,not your fault. If you can't fix it you change it. How is letting in 4 goals against a pathetic offence like L.A not part of the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_604ca Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'm not gonna blame luongo for the loses but it really bothers me that once he is down on the ice he's so slow to get up..Schneider makes the effort to quickly get back up on his feet and into position . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleeyedak Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Excellent Post - nice to find someone on here who knows the difference between technically sound / well positioned goaltending and floppers like Luongo who once he is down is like a beached whale. Yes, he makes some good saves (for the money we are paying him he should) but he will never be a consistent goalie because of his inability to move laterally and remain upright. Why is it that for every other position the "best" player plays? Why is Luongo treated differently? How many Stanley Cup opportunities do we have to blow? Personally I am sick to death of this - it's obvious who is the better goalie and Management owes it to the fans to play him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Dew Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 So are you saying we should start Schneider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Luongo is definitely not the problem and I may be one his strongest supporters during his rough patches, but he has let in 1 bad goal in each of the 2 games. The Richards goal in the 1st game was all Luongo. Sure it was a 5-on-3 but that was a bad goal to let in. The 3rd King goal and even wrap around goal were bad plays by Luongo. That 3rd goal shouldn't of squeeked in, but the defence and Malhotra should of cleaned up the wrap-around. I don't mind seeing us give up 1 goal due to a great offensive play by the Kings and 1 bad goal due to defensive miscues or a bad goalie play, but right now we're letting in more than 2 goals a game (which our offence can easily take care of). Yes Luongo has been good but not good enough to steal a game yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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