Ugli Fruit Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Let me begin by saying that Ehrhoff does not make the difference between a series win and a series loss. Or does he? Everyone's sick of the drop pass. Well, everyone's sick of the powerplay in general. Edler, while he is a great all-round d-man (when he plays), is still not a powerplay quarterback. Ehrhoff was. If Ehrhoff was still here, the drop pass would not be around because Ehrhoff knows how to gain the zone much better than Edler. He would either bring it in, stop at the blue line and dish it off, or pass it to the wing. Edler, or anyone else for that matter, will drop pass, 95 times out of 100. Moving on, as we all know this play is past obsolete. Edler seems to hate getting shots through. Good or bad, he always sucks at this. Ehrhoff was much better at this. I also think Ehrhoff manned the point better than Edler in terms of puck management and distribution. Edler often takes too long to pass and sometimes puts himself in a position where he has no choice but to throw the puck into the corner (eg. screws around at the top of the point near the side boards and gets closed down by a forward). Ehrhoff was quicker for the most part and made space for the Sedins. I don't think Ehrhoff's presence would get us more than a few goals, but I do think that he would have gotten us those few goals, which is a huge help. Also, Ehrhoff rarely turns the puck over during the powerplay (part of his puck management skills), so maybe that would have been a difference. Thoughts? I've thought this one through... It's not a knee-jerk reaction thread. I honestly think Ehrhoff would've helped quite a bit. Edit: Ignore the salary issue. If MG really wanted to keep him, he would have found a way to without compromising the team (eg. not re-sign Bieksa, deal Ballard, Raymond, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 People were expecting him to take a pay-cut and stay, and when he didn't everyone began hating him. He was an excellent offensive defenseman, that worked well with the Sedins. I've missed him all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Even AV said we haven't replaced his offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 He was an important player, no question. But there's no way we could afford to pay him what he wanted. Not only that, he wouldn't exactly have helped on the defensive side of things, which is where the team is having the most trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 that ship sailed. and btw he had a dismal 5 goal season and is injured right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 He would help with the breakouts. Has anyone ever seen a team that is supposed to be good have so many problems breaking out of their zone. They have that one stupid play designed and Kopitar stops it every time. I can't understand how they can't break out. They are just trying the long stretch passes now but those are low percentage at the best of times. In the playoffs against a team like the Kings they are miracle attempts. The Kings can break out and get a rush going. There are some talented people on this team. How can they not do a breakout? You learn breakouts as a 5 year old. And practice them every practice of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 i miss hoff. but that wasnt the only questionable move by gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonedanielsedin Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 he was horrible in the playoffs for us, so no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crime911 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I miss HOFF and Torres I don't see any offense from our 4th line this year. We have basically 3 offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 He was an important player, no question. But there's no way we could afford to pay him what he wanted. Not only that, he wouldn't exactly have helped on the defensive side of things, which is where the team is having the most trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayStation Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Always have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugli Fruit Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 he was horrible in the playoffs for us, so no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Brown Burrows Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I think that wemught see Ballard leaving, lots of cap space. If our prospects can fill in voids, we could sign a signuficant UFA to a high paying short cap hit. Jensen, Tanev, Connauton, and Schroeder could all be ready. ^ Chicago approach... but we would offer a guy like Suter 14 million for 2 years (depends if Nashville lets him go). Just a random option that I think could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Anybody still miss Cam Neely too? C'mon, get over it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeygal Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Ehrhoff injured a lot since he left so he probably would not be playing anyway. I miss Cody Hodgins more. He could easily have stepped into Daniel's place temporarily. Again, like last year we need scorring. We need greasy goals like they got last night against Luongo. We also need the refs to blow the dam whistle once Lou has covered the puck. At least two goals last night were scored because of slow whistles. I think we will rebound, our team has a lot of pride and will not go down without a fight. Go Canucks Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels22 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 From day 1 I knew we would need him. Last year he was our best defenseman by far, the only one who stayed healthy, and also played 25+ minutes every game... People always say his play in our own end and his lack of heart made him a liability. His defensive play wasn't bad, and he put a lot of effort in with us. People are just mad he took off for a lot of cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I miss Anson Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcfly Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 He should have taken the paycut. coulda taken a 2 year contract and a cut, helped us win a cup, THEN worry bout making cash. Almost every star on our team took a cut that season. He would have been awesome on our team again, and I hope he regrets taking his agents advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCityScout Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 it really wasn't that big of a deal a little more money wise could have been done huge drop the ball scenario on upper managements hands still a little angry over that..I was a big fan of the Hoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyking8888 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I am one of the people that said we should have kept Ehrhoff. Bieksa is solid but, he is no powerplay quaterback. Next year, management have to find a quaterback for PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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