Shift-4 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Carkner could have and maybe should have punched him harder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 You see, I do understand and no where in my statement did I say he didn't deserve it. I think hockey is getting pussified, and it really shouldn't be. But the 3rd man rule is for a fight, a fight requires 2 people. Last night Boyle decided he wasn't going to fight, and he turtled, thus I don't think Dubinsky should have been kicked out. I'm not arguing Boyle was in the right, I think he got what he deserved. I'm arguing that Dubinsky didn't deserve to be kicked out of the game. Two totally different things there bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haikara Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 If the league suspends Carkner, they are only fixing their orginal mistake: letting Karlsson get punched repeatedly. If the league protects its players in the first place, the enforcers don't have to go after the opponent and implement their own justice. The league needs to instill fear into the players so you don't have players running around elbowing and punching each other in the head, absolutely classless and disrespectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 LOL The ref didnt even do sh*t. He waited and put his arm up. LOL What a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Actually it doesn't require a fight 46.16 Third Man In - A game misconduct penalty, at the discretion of the Referee, shall be imposed on any player who is the first to intervene (third man in) in an altercation already in progress except when a match penalty is being imposed in the original altercation. This penalty is in addition to any other penalties incurred in the same incident. This rule also applies to subsequent players who elect to intervene in the same or other altercations during the same stoppage of play. Generally, this rule is applied when a fight occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Pretty sure altercation in this sense means fight. Because if it didn't then you would see guys getting thrown out for being the 3rd guy into a scrum. If that starts happening then this sport will be officially a pansies sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Not really, two guys shoving and facewashing each other is an altercation, two guys jousting with sticks is an altercation, referee descretion on whether to throw the player out, thats why it is rarely called. I think the ref tossed a guy from each hoping to settle things down and that was the easiest rule to apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I still disagree with the call, to me those are scrums and nobody ever gets tossed in those. Those happen every single game with nobody getting thrown out. But if it was actually a fight and a third guy jumped in, I'd have no problem with it. In the playoffs you don't just start making calls that never get called, the consequences are too great. Look at Game 1 on the LA series, Kes gets called for snow showering? That happens every game with a warning, but they decide to call it in the playoffs? crap reffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bissonnette Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 He was still punching Boyle when he was on the ground, wow. I hope John Scott beats the crap out of Carkner the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Walrus Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Kida like Boyle did to Karlsson? Quit trying to sell Boyle as a defensless victim cause no one is buying. Boyle is the schoolyard bully who beat up the smallest kid in the playground then chickened out when the kids big brother came looking for him, he was given every opportunity to defend himself, instead he took the Sean Avery route, start something, then run away when it comes back on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real deal - Stan Smyl Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Thank you. Everyone is trying to compare this incident to the bertuzzi incident and it's not even close. He deserved it, he was going after smaller skill players on the senators and thought he was a tough guy and got put into his place. Some people are acting like Carkner was throwing haymakers to boyles head on the ice or something. I wish someone would to the same to Keith, he went out of his way to attempt to sucker punch another player and take his head off. Keith deserves the same treatment but the Canucks won't do anything about it. Even if we do end up playing the Blackhawks in a series keith will not be threatened and will go untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 LOL and Cherry says he did the right thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 LOL The ref didnt even do sh*t. He waited and put his arm up. LOL What a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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