MG had the core practically handed to him right off the bat. Remember when he offered Sundin that 2 year $20 million contract? What if Sundin signed that right there? The Sedins would have been gone. Huge bullet dodged there.
MG made two good moves. One was the Ehrhoff trade. The other was the signing of Hamhuis. The latter shouldn't even count because Hamhuis was coming to Vancouver regardless.
Some of the terrible moves he's made includes the Ballard trade, the Sturm signing, the Hodgson trade, getting rid of Torres and Ehrhoff as well as keeping Raymond around.
Dale Tallon and Ken Holland are still the two best GM's in hockey.
Wow. I've had this debate with so many people who have zero understanding of hockey it is getting unreal. I should probably make a template...
Remember that the SEDINS give a sh*t ton of credit to Sundin for helping them reach the next level. Remember the Sedins before Sundin? Hardly first liners. Hardly SCF finalists.
If he had signed the 2 year/20 million dollar deal (which he never would have, considering he wouldn't even take 10 million/1 year) it would have been better if he never signed...
I really do miss the days of Nonis though where the bottom-6 was stacked with players that had no role (Isbister? Ritchie? Mhmmm). I guess they had the same core, but Nonis had bad results where Gillis' team has won 2 President's trophies and made a SCF appearance and also made the playoffs every single year.
The Sundin signing had NO IMPACT on the Sedins leaving or staying.....
No. Hamhuis wasn't coming to Vancouver 'regardless'. He was coming to Vancouver because they were a contender and because in his interview with GMMG, GMMG touched on a lot of things close to his heart - like charity.
The Ballard trade wasn't a horrible one because the market for a top-4 defenseman was bare and there was NO PROOF at the time that Hamhuis was coming. Did you want the 2nd pairing to be Yann Sauve and pre-Hamhuis Kevin Bieksa?
The Sturm signing wasn't horrible. It was 1 year and could easily be removed/hidden. Nothing bad came of it.
Hodgson's camp WANTED a trade. Regardless if they outright asked for it or not. The agent went to AV and demanded more minutes for a player who hadn't earned it.
He didn't get rid of Ehrhoff..... He offered him a contract and Ehrhoff rejected it. What other choice did he have?
You're ideas are bogus and you have no understanding of how things happen in reality. This isn't some EA sports game.
Edit: Not to mention Sundin's effect on Kes' game. Once Kesler got moved to the RPM line he had 36 points in the last 41 games of that season. Prior to that he was showing very little offensive potential in terms of being a 2nd line center at some point. He proceeded to put up 70+ points twice.
And let's not forget all Gillis has done otherwise. Player development (Dave Gagner), sleep doctors, etc, etc, etc.
There's a reason the team has gotten better under Gillis despite the fact he has the same core as Burke & Nonis who couldn't make it past the 2nd f*cking round.
Not to mention his trade deadline acquisitions have actually been useful. Lapierre & Higgins especially. Pahlsson has been great. Alberts was fine.. not great or horrible.
Edited by Teemu Selšnne, 15 April 2012 - 11:31 PM.