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#1 mangosteens

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:56 AM

No goals in the playoffs.
1 goal in the last 15 games.
When is the last time Kesler looked dangerous out there?
The only that he is noticeable for is trying to embellish penalties.

We are not in the dressing room, but I have to think that seeing a leader on your team out there flopping and whining cannot sit well. Management instructed him to cut it out last year, which he did, but has now reverted back to these shenanigans. Kesler is supposed to be a gritty two-way forward, but honestly Brown and Richards are making him look like a chump this series.

Kesler's no trade clause does not kick in until the start of the 2012-13 season. Could this be another Carter/Richards situation where he is moved in the off season?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:01 AM

Maybe he's injured...? or playing drunk...?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:07 AM

Why is Edler playing like a Elder too..? He was great up until the playoffs
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:10 AM

Kesler's play is so annoying these days. He doesn't pass to anyone, he's chirping at the ref's again and he dives like it's going out of style. I know he is coming back this year off of major injury but it's his bad habits that are driving me up the wall.

I would move Kesler before I ditch Vigneault if this team get's blown out by LA.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:11 AM

Not that I'm defending Kesler, he has been sub par all year...but embelishing?
He didn't embelish anymore than Richards did.

Yet all the haters are calling the Canucks divers?
What a joke.

The Kings are more like Queens IMHO - almost every time they see a hit coming, they turn their backs - hoping to draw a penalty (which they have done several times this series).

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:12 AM

It's sad, really. Can this current roster achieve greatness again in the postseason? So much is up in the air right now.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:12 AM

kesler has been in there, its just not going in....they will break quick in game 4

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wtf was kes doing when flopped around like a fish after mitchell cross checked him behind quicks net!??!?! now that is pathetic and disgusting
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:12 AM

kesler's line is a mess
both kesler and booth likes to do it by themselves and shoot at a distance..before you know it the puck is heading the other way.

once higgins passes, he never gets it back unless there's a rebound.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:16 AM

Not that I'm defending Kesler, he has been sub par all year...but embelishing?
He didn't embelish anymore than Richards did.

Yet all the haters are calling the Canucks divers?
What a joke.

The Kings are more like Queens IMHO - almost every time they see a hit coming, they turn their backs - hoping to draw a penalty (which they have done several times this series).


Yeah but the Kings seem to sneak in their dives when Kesler does his CBC has it in full detail time after time after time.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

I would say he is already at the 11th hole of his favorite golf course.... :angry:



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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:25 AM

He's falling through the air trying to draw a penalty.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:26 AM

kesler is a mess right now, I think booth is just not working out . kes has no interest in using his line mates, the problem is watching him this year, his hands doesn't seem to be there seems like they are rock hard. he doesn't have the jump that he used to have, looks down at the puck a few times when he starts a rush, loses it for a split second each time like he can't stick handle, then takes outside shots regardless if he has puck support or none

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:29 AM

I'm sure he's real frustrated right now

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:31 AM

Kesler has not been the same since his off season hip surgery so I'm assuming the injury and resulting surgery were far worse and far more extensive than we were led to believe. I believe this is also his second hip surgery. (??) Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that point.

The two most glaring changes I have noticed with Kesler since his return are (1) he is half a step (maybe even a whole step) slower than he was before the injury, and (2) that wicked wrist shot that he used to literally blow by goalies last year has vanished, (doesn't look like he can generate any leverage)

All I see now is a guy desperately trying to make something happen all on his own, and for the most part ignoring his wingers. No wonder there is no chemistry on the second line. Used to be called the "helicopter" line
because it was all center (Kesler) and no wingers. The Canucks went out and got some wingers for him to play with and it's still all about the center. (??)
If this is the best Ryan Kesler has to offer down the road then I think he and the Canucks would be better off parting ways in the off season.

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Edited by SuperReverb2, 16 April 2012 - 10:35 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:33 AM

I would move Kesler before I ditch Vigneault if this team get's blown out by LA.


I've been starting to think that way too. Problem is, he has that No Trade Clause.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:36 AM

He is an embarrassment to the team right now with all his flopping. Looking back, how could anyone consider him for captain of this team. Glad to see he has grown up.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

I think the coach has no answers for the team. I think the team is lost under AV; its that simple.

They have no faith in AV and its his own fault. Have we ever seen Kessler benched? When was the last time AV motivated any of his team. Why is Raymond even playing, or Salo, or Edler these last few games. If the team is so deep why play an aging Dman or high speed floater. Oh well some small change and the fans will keep coming to Rogers arena, but AV is done.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

I've been starting to think that way too. Problem is, he has that No Trade Clause.

.....Supposedly it dosen't kick in till the beginning of the 12/13 season.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

Maybe Av has lost Kesler and the rest of the team?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:41 AM

I've been starting to think that way too. Problem is, he has that No Trade Clause.


According to capgeek.com, his no trade clause does not kick in until 2012-2013 season.
Getzlaf for Kesler?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:57 AM

one bad year doesn't make him a bad player
give him one more, if he doesn't bounce back (which i think he will, then we can talk trade)
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:58 AM

Guess he decided to quit contributing offensively after the Nashville series.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:01 AM

Too busy diving and whining

inb4the "OH LOL THE FLAMES ARE AT THE GOLF COURSE ALREADY LULZZ"

don't worry you'll hitting the greens soon

Edited by Sven Baertschi, 16 April 2012 - 11:02 AM.

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Johnny Gaudreau>any Casucks

Edler, Markstrom, Hansen, 2nd round pick 2014 to Islanders for Ryan Strome, 5th overall pick 2014

This is fairly even as well.

 


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:01 AM

No goals in the playoffs.
1 goal in the last 15 games.
When is the last time Kesler looked dangerous out there?
The only that he is noticeable for is trying to embellish penalties.

We are not in the dressing room, but I have to think that seeing a leader on your team out there flopping and whining cannot sit well. Management instructed him to cut it out last year, which he did, but has now reverted back to these shenanigans. Kesler is supposed to be a gritty two-way forward, but honestly Brown and Richards are making him look like a chump this series.

Kesler's no trade clause does not kick in until the start of the 2012-13 season. Could this be another Carter/Richards situation where he is moved in the off season?

...One can only hope!

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:04 AM

Diving, falling, and cartwheeling...
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:07 AM

Kes is a great hockey player and he will be back on top.

He needs some rest and will surprise next year.

To all you fair weather fans I submit my bird to you all.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:08 AM

I think he should be on the fourth line...

Edited by Geoff Peterson, 16 April 2012 - 11:09 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:28 AM

Maybe Av has lost Kesler and the rest of the team?


That seems fairly obvious, but MG will use Daniel's injury as an excuse not to fire AV. I totally agree though, that he has lost the team.

Edited by gumshoe242, 16 April 2012 - 11:28 AM.


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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:29 AM

Why would he have a no-trade that does not start until 2012-13? Is it possible that he and management already discussed that if the canucks dont win the cup, that they would part ways?

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:32 AM

What's wrong with Kesler?

The expectations of what he is are unreasonable.

He had a career season last year scoring most of his points on a dynamic PP. He was very effective defensively, thus the Selke.

The problem is, he is not a dynamic offensive player or goal scorer. He is the epitome of a Selke THIRD line centerman. IN that role, he is possibly the best in the league. As a 2nd line centerman, he does not have the instincts or talent to put up the necessary points and be successful 5 on 5.

Virtually every top 9 player on this team has played on his line this year and in every case, their production has dropped.

Kesler is being misused by AV though, with the team doesn't really have options right now.

IN the off-season, I would try to get a legitimate 2nd line scoring centerman and look at putting Kesler either on his wing, or back to 3rd line sut down duties. He could still be effective on the PK and PP but woudl be better suited to what the team needs.

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