DutchieBang Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 WTF. I clicked on this thread... what the F is wrong with ME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I too feel let down, Bodee. However, unlike so many I haven't "turned" on my team. I understand that winning in the NHL is a difficult thing to do and I understand that teams and players occasionally go through slumps. If I could give the reason for it, or a way to fix the problem, I'd likely be rich like Tony Robbins. I wish the team was doing better, but I believe they're giving it their all. Things just aren't going their way right now. Hopefully, that changes tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Blind Mice Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 What's wrong with you? You're too melodramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tearloch7 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 WTF. I clicked on this thread... what the F is wrong with ME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 i look at things from a different view.....this team, from top to bottom, wants to win the stanley cup....when we're feeling down about a loss, they are too...they don't want to let their fan base and their team mates down...are they trying to right the ship? is the coach trying different combinations, looking for goal production? has gillis tried to get the talent and the depth on this team to compete for the cup every year? if i was allowed in their dressing room, would i be telling them that they are done and i don't care about them anymore, or would i be encouraging them dig deep and give it their best shot? would i tell them that i'm going to root for philly or boston, because they don't deserve me as a fan or am i going to say, i'm here guys...staying strong, never giving up hope in them...? i know that, i will never lose respect for these guys, they are out there every game trying to win....trying to win for their fans and team mates...try looking at where they are through their eyes.....put yourself in their skates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I 'll tell you Bodee what is wrong with you, you are a "True Fan", and you think that is a good thing. You believe in everything the Canucks do and believe Gillis +co can do no wrong. They could build a nes arena on a nuclear waist dump and you would find a way to "Believe" it is the right thing to do because Gillis knows more than we do. and Rup I am Tony Robbins because I can tell you how to fix it, 1 get a #1 defenceman, no Fanbois Alex Edler is NOT a Norris candidate 2 get some Real tough Leaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canidiot Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 whats wrong with me is that i now know how the leafs fans are feeling. i don't want an letter, explaining how bad the club feels after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canidiot Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 maybe we will get a ribbon for participating in the stanley cup playoffs. thats something we can hang on our walls and be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjkaemingh Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 We are all just emotionally attached to this team, probably way too much. If we care so much to post here on CDC, it just shows that we really care about the success of this team. There are probably 3 to 10 times as many Canucks fans out there that feel the same way ( or maybe not as bad) that just do not come and post on the CDC. I get ticked off too when they lose, but to put it into some perspective (it is just a game). the sun does come up tomorrow. game 1: could have went either way, they get the late third period bounce. game 2: 2 shorties against, we screw ourselves, bad game, Kings were better/more deserving. game 3: could have went either way, hansen hits post, we just needed one, Brown gets fortuitous rebound bounce, game over. It has been very close. Bottom line, Canuck players are not getting it done, need a couple goals. Kings are playing well. We have not played that bad (first two games not that great), just need a bounce.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 i look at things from a different view.....this team, from top to bottom, wants to win the stanley cup....when we're feeling down about a loss, they are too...they don't want to let their fan base and their team mates down...are they trying to right the ship? is the coach trying different combinations, looking for goal production? has gillis tried to get the talent and the depth on this team to compete for the cup every year? if i was allowed in their dressing room, would i be telling them that they are done and i don't care about them anymore, or would i be encouraging them dig deep and give it their best shot? would i tell them that i'm going to root for philly or boston, because they don't deserve me as a fan or am i going to say, i'm here guys...staying strong, never giving up hope in them...? i know that, i will never lose respect for these guys, they are out there every game trying to win....trying to win for their fans and team mates...try looking at where they are through their eyes.....put yourself in their skates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 The disillusionment stems from a team that's perplexing. Are we sure of anything with this team now? Is Luongo the go to guy? He's played well, but the team in front hasn't. What's with Alex Edler? Here was a rock solid d-man and he's acting like a nervous rookie? Why has beast mode-Kesler turned into chirp-mode Kesler? Why is Hasen, Higgins, and Hamhuis the only skaters who seem to show up night after night? I thought Booth was a goal-scoring power forward type? Yet Samuelsson has 1 point more in the regular season, a better +/- and has 4 points in 3 playoff games to Booths 0, and Booth is 8 years younger??? How does a president's trophy winning team falter so quickly in the playoffs. Is it fatigue from playing too much hockey over a few seasons? Bad line combos? Bad tactics? Coaching? Trainers? Lack of team spirit? So many questions. So few answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWheeler Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 You can have your attitude towards the team and others can have theirs. What you need to try and do is not let someone else's view of the team and its player affect how you think. If you want to stand by every Canuck player through thick and thin, that is entirely your perogative. Myself, for instance, am expecting results. I do not see this team as a Pee Wee hockey team that needs to be coddled. I feel that as much as Hockey is a game, it is also a business. And businesses are results driven. Gillis has tried to transform this team into a perennial contender, and I think he has done that. The last 4 years have arguably been the the most consistent and exciting years this team has had (However I did enjoy the WCE era and the Bure era). Gillis has set the bar HIGH. We have some of the worlds best hockey players on our team, which alot of other teams are not very fortunate to have. With the last 4 years, Gillis has molded this team into one where a Stanley Cup is expected, not just hoped for. And to me, when the bar has been risen so high and the team is touted so lofty, I expect the same. I don't want to waste my time and money watching average NHL players. I expect the best. Obviously I will not get the best players in the league playing on the same team, but I do expect certain things. I expect the team to be managed properly. I expect prospects to be developed properly. I expect top name players on this team. I expect the best complimentary players for those said top name players. I expect the best goaltending. I expect the best coach coaching the team. I expect the team to be built in a way that is cohesive, and is built to run in a way that brings out the strengths of each and every player. I expect the team to scout and draft properly. Those expectations may seem selfish or out of reach. But I don't think they are. Given the financial backing of this team and the recent success it has had, with a GM who I hope is actively trying to make this team the best he can, I feel these expectations are warranted. Gillis and the direction the team has taken in the last 5 years have instilled these expectations in me. In my mind, the Vancouver Canucks are the best. And I expect the best out of them each and every year. And if things happen that I (along with many others) feel go against those expectations, I feel that they are teasing me, or showing me that they dont care (And that starts from Management down to the coach down to the players). So yes, I get a little angry and frustrated with them. People are not right 100% of the time, that applies to myself and it also applies to the brains running this team. Which then leaves us to argue over it on CDC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 I think I know what's wrong with you, but first I need to know how long you have been a Canucks fan? haha. If you are a newer Fan, then, perhaps you have not been disappointed as often as us long time fans. But it is worse this year than it ever has for us Canuck fans. I can't speak for every one, but as for myself last year was a Huge disappointment. I had lost my father to cancer and watching and talking...basically bonding over Canuck hockey is one of those things you'll remember for the rest of your life. I was hoping the Canucks would win it all for my father last year, but that did not happen. And now it comes down to this year...we basically have the same team as last year with a few new people in the line-up..and you got to thinking...hey...maybe this year is the year. Well...we're down 3-0 and the fans are probably more frustrated than the players are, cuz we also know that this series could have gone the other way and the fans expect no less than perfection. Well..the point is, that it's not about missing that key element to bring us over the top any more. I believe that this core group has been together long enough...and has not given the fans the results they want. The team has reached it's limit, So now things have got to change...in fact...with the huge disappointment of last year, I would go so far and say that this teams needs a rebuild as the excitement just isn't there for this team anymore. The fans just have had enough disappointment. We spent too much money on this team as it is. Being the presidents trophy winner twice in a row and producing a selke winner and art ross winner and coach of the year..just isn't good enough anymore. WE WANT THE CUP!!! nothing else will do. So now, hopefully you will understand why most fans are not supporting the team right now. Next year, I'm sure they will be back, unless the team stays the same..then....who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexluthor Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Elaine says "Yada yada yada..." to you. Bertuzzi says "It is what it is" to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 You can have your attitude towards the team and others can have theirs. What you need to try and do is not let someone else's view of the team and its player affect how you think. If you want to stand by every Canuck player through thick and thin, that is entirely your perogative. Myself, for instance, am expecting results. I do not see this team as a Pee Wee hockey team that needs to be coddled. I feel that as much as Hockey is a game, it is also a business. And businesses are results driven. Gillis has tried to transform this team into a perennial contender, and I think he has done that. The last 4 years have arguably been the the most consistent and exciting years this team has had (However I did enjoy the WCE era and the Bure era). Gillis has set the bar HIGH. We have some of the worlds best hockey players on our team, which alot of other teams are not very fortunate to have. With the last 4 years, Gillis has molded this team into one where a Stanley Cup is expected, not just hoped for. And to me, when the bar has been risen so high and the team is touted so lofty, I expect the same. I don't want to waste my time and money watching average NHL players. I expect the best. Obviously I will not get the best players in the league playing on the same team, but I do expect certain things. I expect the team to be managed properly. I expect prospects to be developed properly. I expect top name players on this team. I expect the best complimentary players for those said top name players. I expect the best goaltending. I expect the best coach coaching the team. I expect the team to be built in a way that is cohesive, and is built to run in a way that brings out the strengths of each and every player. I expect the team to scout and draft properly. Those expectations may seem selfish or out of reach. But I don't think they are. Given the financial backing of this team and the recent success it has had, with a GM who I hope is actively trying to make this team the best he can, I feel these expectations are warranted. Gillis and the direction the team has taken in the last 5 years have instilled these expectations in me. In my mind, the Vancouver Canucks are the best. And I expect the best out of them each and every year. And if things happen that I (along with many others) feel go against those expectations, I feel that they are teasing me, or showing me that they dont care (And that starts from Management down to the coach down to the players). So yes, I get a little angry and frustrated with them. People are not right 100% of the time, that applies to myself and it also applies to the brains running this team. Which then leaves us to argue over it on CDC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 Elaine says "Yada yada yada..." to you. Bertuzzi says "It is what it is" to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeria Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Just one loss then we're home as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 you have shown time and time again that you lack any real knowledge of the game. that and you thinking raymond is a key piece to our team is what is wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 There are 30 teams in this league. It is very hard to win the cup. Expectations are that we are a good team and we should be in the final year after year. This is just unrealistic. Detroit, the most consistent team over the last 20 years has been bounced out of the first round on a couple of occasions. Lots of good teams get burnt out or end up with lots of injuries at play-off time, and don't advance very far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 So should I really be surprised that a large section of CDC have turned out to have little or no class, have turned on this team so easily, have found reverse gear and fled the scene? It seems that the team we idolised and thought the world of a month ago is crap now, wholesale changes need to be made, players who decorate our bedroom walls are failures and only fit to be trade bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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