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#121 smurf47

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

Its a pretty definite statement when the coach says hes going to play the goalie who gives us the best chance to win !! Sentiment aside, hes playing the numbers game and going with the goalie who has the better stats.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

This is Vancouver. If he can't handle the media, what is he doing here?

It doesn't mean he won't be able to handle it.

If two goaltenders have the same ability to win us the game tonight, then why not give Luongo the shield so that people can calm down a bit?

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

I predicted that the team has been on a downhill spiral ever since 'the trade'.

A sweep actually wouldn't surprise me. Specially with Kassian and Kesler being no shows..


And I predicted us going down 3-0. I could say whatever I want now too.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Dear Luongo: You had some solid games in vancouver...you also had alot of weak games....the young gun behind you stole the show. If i could just ask for one last favour before you go.....Please don't put florida on your list, we have already picked them dry. I could see Nash/Parise/Lecaviler type player working here in vancouver.I don't blame you if you don't want to go to Columbus, but think of the fans! Best of luck next season.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Schneider deserved a start in the SC Finals last season after Lu melted down. AV knows that. Schneider has been playing outstanding the entire season.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

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Your an idiot, that was a terrible rebound and thats exactly what you would of said if Luongo was in net you tool.


What is it with all these children throwing insults around?

My opinion is in no way based on what Luongo did. I feel that Schneider's play last game has earned him this start.

Can we start limiting CDC access to these pre-schoolers?
Orland Kurtenbach and Dennis Kearns had just been torched 8-1 by the Habs, but they still took time to come out to meet us, some fellow BC boys who were playing hockey in Montreal. THAT"S what being a Canuck is!

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

And I predicted us going down 3-0. I could say whatever I want now too.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

One would think that Lou would want out of Vancouver after playing decent in two games and then riding the pine for the next two critical games.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

its a team game which showed the team played ALOT better game 3...hes taking that into account.


ultimately I think this is the base line simplest explanation. Team looked good in game 3. Whether that was really
Schneider or not AV doesn't want to move away from that. so schneider starts game 4. It will be an interesting off season whenever that comes around that is for sure.

for now... on to game 4 let's get it done and bring series back to vancouver for a game 5

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

Are you a wizard?


My exact sayin

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

Lu played really well in games 1 and 2. BUT: was outplayed by Quick.

Game 3, CS wasn't outplayed by Quick. But for one goalpost (I know, a goalpost is a miss... but...) and/or blown coverage it would have been a win for the nucks or an OT game.

Definitely means Lu is out though. He is in high demand, lots of teams have poor goaltending. 5.5 cap hit isn't un-tradable - in fact it is quite tradable. I can see him going East and potentially South. Who to trade him for? Offense, obviously, a sniper, pure goal-scorer of some sort if we can get him... or top pick in draft (dream on?)??

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

ultimately I think this is the base line simplest explanation. Team looked good in game 3. Whether that was really
Schneider or not AV doesn't want to move away from that. so schneider starts game 4. It will be an interesting off season whenever that comes around that is for sure.

for now... on to game 4 let's get it done and bring series back to vancouver for a game 5


There's also the reasoning that after a few games/days off, Luu sometimes needs a few games to get in the zone again. Schneider played outstanding last game and he is full of confidence. I just hope this team scores some damn goals.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

Not sure why it's such a huge debate. Canucks play better in front of Schneider and he has had the better stats. Right now he gives us the better chance to win.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

I've been playing for longer than you've be alive, so careful who you call "stupid".

I never said Lou was the reason we lost. However, Schneider's play in game three earned him the next start, IMO. An opinion shared by the head coach.

I guess I can assume that you're one of those so impressed with his own knowledge that you think it trumps that of an actual NHL coach, is that about it?

Right, and I just came back from polishing my Stanley Cup rings.

I don't care if you've been playing hockey all your life. If it wasn't for the blown coverage and turnovers, Luongo would have shut the doors too.

So I guess you called this to be the "correct" decision because you know so much about hockey, huh?

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

Not sure why it's such a huge debate. Canucks play better in front of Schneider and he has had the better stats. Right now he gives us the better chance to win.


Agreed. I also think Luongo is a better teammate than a lot of people give him credit for. He knows Schneider is a solid goalie.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

Luongo deserves a lot more credit than he has gotten for how professional he's been. Even when they kept cutting his starts down and down, denying him the opportunity to play against Boston, and now this, he hasn't pouted once. The guy is a true team player and professional.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

The problem is this team has been going downhill since acquiring Kassian.

We just don't have enough to get a cup and neither goalie makes a difference. No matter how good.

This is just throwing Lu under the bus and it's bad. Hopefully both goalies playing split games was prearranged.



If you like looking at statistics to determine who's better, you're just a casual fan.

2.41 season GAA isn't very impressive. Let's not get into playoffs and his SV%.

Cory Schneider is the next Patrick Roy.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:37 PM

The funny thing is that Luongo IS better than Schneider.


Just like any statement in life you should back it up with evidence. What is the evidence that Luongo is better than schneider? We can only look at numbers (and more importantly numbers on the road), and schneider has better numbers. The argument that he has been playing limited games does not apply because in any chance that he's been given, he has performed. He has not had 3 straight playoff meltdowns.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:38 PM

What is it with all these children throwing insults around?

My opinion is in no way based on what Luongo did. I feel that Schneider's play last game has earned him this start.

Can we start limiting CDC access to these pre-schoolers?

By saying Schneider "earned" it, you're saying Luongo doesn't "deserve" it.

Your argument can't connect unless that's what you're implying. None of the goals Luongo allowed were his faults. Why can't you say he "earned" it too?

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

don't like this move, Luongo played well, and we are now on the brink as you all know, so what happends if we lose tonight, then our number one goalie did not go down with the team. The backup did.. On the other hand if we win then what do we do the rest of teh series as we will always be on teh brink?
Always will love and support Cody Hodgson, great player, great potential great character, and I don't care about those stupid rumours about the trade. And we lost him, what a dissapointment. Love you COHO, forever a canuck in my heart!

One day Luongo will raise Lord Stanley's cup.
And show all those haters that he is the amazing goalie that he is.
No matter what jersey he wears, I will always be cheering for Luongo.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

And I predicted us going down 3-0. I could say whatever I want now too.


I made several posts/threads since the Hodgson trade, saying its going to lead us on a downward spiral.

Not my fault u didn't see them. I mean I'm sure I could dig them up if I really wanted.

But for you... Not worth it.

If you like looking at statistics to determine who's better, you're just a casual fan.

2.41 season GAA isn't very impressive. Let's not get into playoffs and his SV%.

Cory Schneider is the next Patrick Roy.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

For me, it comes down to two thing

1. Who does the team play better in front of? I think the answer is pretty clear.
2. When they need a big save, who is more relaiable? When the Nucks got back to within 1, in game, two, Luongo lets in a dribbler from the side of the net. IN game three, the Nucks are down, pressing hard, pinching, and Schneids came up with 3-4 pretty monumental saves to keep the team within 1 goal. That, in a nutshell, is why this decision is the right one.

It's clear now that it's either AV or Luongo this summer, with a high possibility of both.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

Oh I smell trouble a brewing if we lose!!!! I love Lou but I think this is the right call in the short term. Long term...not good.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

I honestly don't know if this is the right move. Schnieds has been nothing short of amazing this year, but Lou is the guy, His two games in this series he has been huge so i don't know about this.
I do like how the team is more agressive in front of Cory though, the team seems to play scared in front of Lou. Mabey this is the right move, I don't know.
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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

By saying Schneider "earned" it, you're saying Luongo doesn't "deserve" it.

Your argument can't connect unless that's what you're implying. None of the goals Luongo allowed were his faults. Why can't you say he "earned" it too?


He let in 7 in two games.......3 of which were awful. Sure, he made some good saves, but he didn't make many timely saves.

The people who are saying Lu was "amazing" in the first two games must ahve only watched short snippets of the games. he was good, but he was far far from amazing and the stats back that up.

Edited by stawns, 18 April 2012 - 12:44 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:43 PM

I love Lu... but I'm excited for Schneid's biggest game yet

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:44 PM

So if Schneiderman wins tonight, does he start game 5?


DUHHHHHHHH

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

Surprising move, I really thought Luongo would get the nod tonight... Probably just showcasing Schneider...

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:46 PM

I made several posts/threads since the Hodgson trade, saying its going to lead us on a downward spiral.

Not my fault u didn't see them. I mean I'm sure I could dig them up if I really wanted.

But for you... Not worth it.


They don't call you "Special Ed" for nothing. Maybe time to take a refresher course.

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

He let in 7 in two games.......3 of which were awful. Sure, he made some good saves, but he didn't make many timely saves.

The people who are saying Lu was "amazing" in the first two games must ahve only watched short snippets of the games. he was good, but he was far far from amazing and the stats back that up.

I usually agree with what you say but I feel this is really a toss up. If you want to be critical and say Luongo didn't make timely saves, then Schneider's right pad rebound was definitely untimely.

My stance throughout the entire thread has been this: I can't see which one is a right decision and a wrong decision because both Luongo and Schneider have the ability to win games.




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