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#1 cmpunk

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

I was just thinking and was wondering about this. Schnied's value is already high, and is getting a lot higher with his great playoff perfromances.

But just wondering would he actually generate a big return when we would really just be trading his rights to a team as he is set to be an RFA? If this is the case, don't think a team would give us much for just his rights. However the way I see it if we were sign Schnieder to a contract, that is when his true value will viewed and get a big return. But I don't think management would sign and trade a player as it will look bad for future players signing, or if they do sign him, I could see Lu then requesting the trade as he would assume Schnieder would be the number 1.

Whatever the case this offseason is going to be VERY interesting.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:33 PM

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PLEASE no more Luongo/Schneider threads :sadno: :sadno: :picard:
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:33 PM

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The return for Schneider would be massive, but we're not trading him. :P It's going to be the other guy.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:34 PM

Schneider will not be going anywhere.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:34 PM

The return for Schneider would be massive, but we're not trading him. :P It's going to be the other guy.


This.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:36 PM

just wondering if we "were" too would trading his rights even get us much of a return?
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:37 PM

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The return for Schneider will be Schneider returning.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:38 PM

PLEASE no more Luongo/Schneider threads :sadno: :sadno: :picard:


its fun nikki :)
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:38 PM

just wondering if we "were" too would trading his rights even get us much of a return?


We would.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:38 PM

The return for Schneider would be massive, but we're not trading him. :P It's going to be the other guy.


Sure hope so
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

We would.


really? just thought teams might to give a lot for just his rights when they don't even know if a player would even sign with them..

just like for Ehrhoff's rights.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

just wondering if we "were" too would trading his rights even get us much of a return?


it's not just his rights though. that would be a player that was just about to become a UFA. Schneider will be an rfa. (i think)

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

Ehrhoff was a UFA. They were trading for a day or two of extra neg time.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:42 PM

whatever goaliee goes we will still end up being a better team.

Keep Schnieds, have a good young goalie and get a good player or 2 for Lu

Keep Lu, prob get a star player and still have a good goalie
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:44 PM

it's not just his rights though. that would be a player that was just about to become a UFA. Schneider will be an rfa. (i think)


ok kinda know the main difference between an RFA and UFA but not the specifics....just wondering what if Schnieds goes to a team but decides he doesn't want to sign there....then what would happen??
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:51 PM

I think the chances of Schneider signing with a team would be very high once that team has traded for his rights. He is still a young guy, he's just looking for a #1 job and he seems like the type of guy that would want to pay back a team's investment in him. His value would be very high, and its only getting higher. Still though, the best possible use the Canucks have for Schneider is as their #1 guy next season.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:52 PM

ok kinda know the main difference between an RFA and UFA but not the specifics....just wondering what if Schnieds goes to a team but decides he doesn't want to sign there....then what would happen??


He would sit out for a season.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:53 PM

I think the chances of Schneider signing with a team would be very high once that team has traded for his rights. He is still a young guy, he's just looking for a #1 job and he seems like the type of guy that would want to pay back a team's investment in him. His value would be very high, and its only getting higher. Still though, the best possible use the Canucks have for Schneider is as their #1 guy next season.


yeah i think so too...lol after just seeing the Hawks lose again by another crap goal what if Lu waived his NTC and goes to the Hawks??....just sayin
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:54 PM

He would sit out for a season.


oh ok thanks for letting me know....Yeah so I guess his value would still be high because if he doesn't want to sign with the team he would not be making anything if he sits, which is not going to happen
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:57 PM

yeah i think so too...lol after just seeing the Hawks lose again by another crap goal what if Lu waived his NTC and goes to the Hawks??....just sayin


I am thinking the hawks have seen three straight years of sketchy playoff performances... they are not one team who would be in the market for him!
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:00 PM

I am thinking the hawks have seen three straight years of sketchy playoff performances... they are not one team who would be in the market for him!

\that was playing against them, maybe he is good playing for them!!! lol

Man 3 straight??, he played good against them last playoffs, give him credit where it is due
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:01 PM

yeah i think so too...lol after just seeing the Hawks lose again by another crap goal what if Lu waived his NTC and goes to the Hawks??....just sayin

haha lu going to Chicago? The fans love him here compared to how he'd be treated in Chicago.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:21 PM

yeah i think so too...lol after just seeing the Hawks lose again by another crap goal what if Lu waived his NTC and goes to the Hawks??....just sayin


Just stop talking, this is ridiculous.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:21 PM

\that was playing against them, maybe he is good playing for them!!! lol

Man 3 straight??, he played good against them last playoffs, give him credit where it is due


He played well against them last year? You're joking right? I'm not a Lu hater, but he was awful against the Hawks, he's a big reason why they came back and we started Schneider to wake him up.

That's like saying Bryz played well against the Pens if the Flyers were to win their current series.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:24 PM

the problem is whomever wants schneid just has to make an offer,we then have to match that offer or lose him. If we trade his rights then the same goes for that team, so yes his trade value is still high. The team that gets his rights will also be able to take him to arbitration (spl chk). As the canucks right now Schneid is ours if we want to keep him, if someone offers 7mil a year we can match it or not. If schneid doesnt want the money we offer he can go to arbitration and we have him for one more year.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:25 PM

The way Schnieder is playing other Gm's are drooling over him like Tampa, New Jersey (if Broduer retires) Islanders. But I can't see Luongo staying considering AV call on Schnieder on a must win game for 2nd straight game and more and likely Schnieder will play in game 5. So why would Luongo want to stay if the team and the coaching staff don't believe in him to win the must win games.

On a side note you have to give it to Schnieder he has come in goal in a real tough position, on the road in a must win games. The kid is playing like a 15 year vet.
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:27 PM

He played well against them last year? You're joking right? I'm not a Lu hater, but he was awful against the Hawks, he's a big reason why they came back and we started Schneider to wake him up.

That's like saying Bryz played well against the Pens if they were to win their current series.


When it counted he came up big....the games he lost, didn't really get beat by a weak or bad goal like he did in the other series...and no Bryz has been a whole lot worse than Lu last year against the Hawks get real...anyways
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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

He is still valuable because whatever team gets his rights gets him for at least 1 year. They could either take him to arbitration if they don't come to an initial agreement, or match an offer sheet from another team.. Either way ensures 1 year of play for said team.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:31 PM

The way Schnieder is playing other Gm's are drooling over him like Tampa, New Jersey (if Broduer retires) Islanders. But I can't see Luongo staying considering AV call on Schnieder on a must win game for 2nd straight game and more and likely Schnieder will play in game 5. So why would Luongo want to stay if the team and the coaching staff don't believe in him to win the must win games.

On a side note you have to give it to Schnieder he has come in goal in a real tough position, on the road in a must win games. The kid is playing like a 15 year vet.


Oh yeah I know, the way he is playing is just putting his value even higher, just didnt know it still would be since he were to be an RFA. And yeah now I don't see Lu staying here if AV is still here. It really is a double edge sword for whatever goalie leaves, as in Schnieds is the better return and Lu's return is still good but definately not as good for Schnieds

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:32 PM

The way Schnieder is playing other Gm's are drooling over him like Tampa, New Jersey (if Broduer retires) Islanders. But I can't see Luongo staying considering AV call on Schnieder on a must win game for 2nd straight game and more and likely Schnieder will play in game 5. So why would Luongo want to stay if the team and the coaching staff don't believe in him to win the must win games.

On a side note you have to give it to Schnieder he has come in goal in a real tough position, on the road in a must win games. The kid is playing like a 15 year vet.


schneider for parise... I do not want schneid to go at all, I am huge schneider supporter, but I think thats the kind of trade we can get. Lou on the other hand lecavier...or phenuef (spl chk)
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