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#151 Patrick Jane

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

Schneider will have a great future
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

Schnieder will not get less than 4mil...I think anything less is a slap in his face.


If Schneider demands a 5 million contract... I'll laugh. Heck even 4!



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Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:45 PM

Something to think about:

Canucks in this series scored only 8 goals in 5 games and won 1 game in the first round, can't blame Schnieds or Lu one bit

SCF, Canucks scored 8 goals as well in 7 games(2 more games) but won 3 games, but LU gets the entire blame for the loss from everyone....

What does this tell everyone??

Enough said.


Schneider kept us in all the games he played until close to the end. Luongo on the other hand did not.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:04 PM

What people aren't figuring out is that LA's offensive line spent time studying Luongo's goalie style. You can be damn sure that the week leading up to the series, LA was practicing lateral front of net passes and high blocker/glove one-timers. LA did a good job scouting his weaknesses and practicing exactly what they needed to be successful against him.

When Cory came in, LA was not ready for the change. They couldn't figure out how to apply all of what they've been practicing to a more stand-up goalie. So they went to relying on point shots (which actually forced the defense to pay attention to the front of the net, which they hadn't been during games 1 and 2).

So, in summary:
  • Cory looked better because LA did not study him well enough. They put all their eggs in the "we'll be shooting against Luongo" basket, and when Cory came in, he looked lights-out because they weren't exploiting his weaknesses.
  • The subsequent change of offensive play from Cory coming in forced the defense to pay attention and compress, whereas they should have been doing that from the beginning of the series.
  • You can't win a series if you don't score.
Cory and Luongo are the best pairing in the league. You wouldn't split up the Sedins because Hank has a drought. Luongo and Cory are pioneering a successful goalie pairing, which is very rare in the modern NHL. Don't fix what ain't broken.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:14 PM

What people aren't figuring out is that LA's offensive line spent time studying Luongo's goalie style. You can be damn sure that the week leading up to the series, LA was practicing lateral front of net passes and high blocker/glove one-timers. LA did a good job scouting his weaknesses and practicing exactly what they needed to be successful against him.

When Cory came in, LA was not ready for the change. They couldn't figure out how to apply all of what they've been practicing to a more stand-up goalie. So they went to relying on point shots (which actually forced the defense to pay attention to the front of the net, which they hadn't been during games 1 and 2).

So, in summary:

  • Cory looked better because LA did not study him well enough. They put all their eggs in the "we'll be shooting against Luongo" basket, and when Cory came in, he looked lights-out because they weren't exploiting his weaknesses.
  • The subsequent change of offensive play from Cory coming in forced the defense to pay attention and compress, whereas they should have been doing that from the beginning of the series.
  • You can't win a series if you don't score.
Cory and Luongo are the best pairing in the league. You wouldn't split up the Sedins because Hank has a drought. Luongo and Cory are pioneering a successful goalie pairing, which is very rare in the modern NHL. Don't fix what ain't broken.


So after game 3 they had 2 days between games,,then after game 4 they had 3 days to study Cory. Kings had no idea who they were going to be playing until the last weekend. Right to the the last 2 games they could have ended up 3rd,7yh or 8th, so I doubt they focussed on Lu for a week. Cory was not brought in from Quesnel or something where he was an unknown. Cory played plenty enough games over 2 years in the NHL that if he had an obvious weakness it would have been found by now.
Guess all season was cuz they were preparing for Lu because all season Cory was nearly 1/2 a goal better. Seems like Lu fanboys need a reason to justify why Cory's numbers are better at everything.
If Cory played 2 games and Lu 3 they would have said it was because he played less games, but this time was Cory with the 3 and Lu with the 2 and the numbers are miles apart again. The Canuks did play better defensively in game 3 than the other 4 for sure, but the last 2 games they were no better than games 1 and 2.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

The reason why I like Schneider better than Luongo is his attitude. When he gets scored on, he gets back up and refuses to look defeated. This sort of charisma rubs off on the rest of the team and boosts everyone's confidence that they can still stay in the game. It also shows during interviews. He answers questions without being defensive, admits when he could have done better, and always seems to put the team first. All of these qualities make him just a more likable person. Even if Luongo played well this season, I choose Schneider simply because he has better qualities that make the team more effective.


Just wait until he is constantly being scrutinized by the fans and media even when he's playing well and see how quickly the attitude changes.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:13 PM

Schneider kept us in all the games he played until close to the end. Luongo on the other hand did not.


um pretty sure we didn't lose either game 1 or game 2 until half way or late in the 3rd period despite being badly outplayed

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

Schneider is harder to figure than Lou because he does not have the weaknesses that teams have found in Lou's game. Lou is very predictable, always down and quite often not set for the shot. Teams fire shots from all angles on Lou because of that. He also cheats on shots and not square.
The consistancy that Schneider shows is the same as goalies like Quick, Smith, Lundquist ...they are better because they have better fundamentals than others.They are more patient than Lou.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:42 PM

um pretty sure we didn't lose either game 1 or game 2 until half way or late in the 3rd period despite being badly outplayed


I was more referring to Luongo in last years Stanley Cup finals.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 08:20 PM

Schneider 1Win 2Loss 1.31GAA .960SV%

.... Luongo 0Wins 2Loss 3.59GAA .891SV%

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:00 PM

Gets beat by a simple wrist shot in o.t and overplays the first goal, this guy is so overrated its sickening, never won a big game in his life.

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:11 PM

only had a save percentage of over .960....gave up one goal per 60 minutes. Strap on the pads Doobie or smoke another one !

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Posted 23 April 2012 - 09:13 PM

The Canucks discovered, drafted, developed, and groomed Schneider into a pristine goaltender and leader

He is our project; our baby all grown up.

And now we just hand him off to another team so that they can reap the rewards of our hard work?!

I sincerely hope not. With his abilities and attitude he's going to go far in life.
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Posted 23 April 2012 - 10:21 PM

Schneider was an absolute beast ever since he took the net in gm 3. I am just looking at the numbers:

Games 1-2: Canucks out chanced the Kings 36-31 overall. 30-21 at even strength

Games 3-5: Kings out chanced the Canucks 64-44 overall. 49-32 at even strength

According to the stats guys, you typically see on average of 13 scoring chances per game.
On average, goalies let in 1 goal every 6 or 7 scoring chances.

Games 1-3 were absurd. Just absurd. The Canucks were ran out of the rink in terms of scoring chances. IMO, Schneider stole those games, and stole them in style.
Kind of makes me wonder why AV didn't go back to the lines and D pairings that worked in gms 1 & 2, cause those were the only lines/matchups that actually created chances and prevented chances against.




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