gradin123 Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 This is Vancouver media. Nothing has to be factual in order to be published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyHockey Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 There is an old adage in hockey. GMs are responsible for offence. Coaches are responsible for defence. The Canucks lost this series because the offence was not good enough. So this one is the fault of Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js604 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Gillis and his ego needs to be blamed for managing to make last years team significantly weaker. And: torres, mitchell, hodgson, erhoff, grabner, samuelsson > ballard, booth, kassian, grags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Get a coach who knows how to motivate his players when they need to be, AV can't do this and it hurt us big time in this series. With the amount of scoring power this team has even with Daniel out of the lineup, other players should of stepped up, but they didn't, because AV wasn't able to get them motivated to win. And bring in a coach who is more an offensive style coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyvn Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 With AV coaching, the young talents would never be shining here. CoHo is a good example. AV doesn't like to give rookies chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 You know that if we fire AV there will be a ton of teams scrambling to sign him. You know why? Because he's a great coach. Who would you replace him with? MacTavish? Crawford? Maurice? Unless someone like Quenville or Babcock somehow manages to get fired, AV is the best coach for us. Gillis just needs to get us a top 4 defenceman that can actually quarterback a powerplay, and an elite winger to play with Kesler, then we're set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyvn Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 You know that if we fire AV there will be a ton of teams scrambling to sign him. You know why? Because he's a great coach. Who would you replace him with? MacTavish? Crawford? Maurice? Unless someone like Quenville or Babcock somehow manages to get fired, AV is the best coach for us. Gillis just needs to get us a top 4 defenceman that can actually quarterback a powerplay, and an elite winger to play with Kesler, then we're set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I forgot wonder boy Hodgson, who had 1 point in the playoffs, would have solved all of our problems. Hodgson did not have the speed or grit to be able to outmuscle the Kings D. If guys like Burrows, Kesler, and Higgins couldn't do it, Hodgson wouldn't either. Our problems ran deeper than having a third line center. If we're struggling for 2/3 of a game to get the puck out of our zone, we're probably not going to win. I hate to say it, but I'm glad we weren't able to squeak past the Kings. Clearly there's deeper problems on this team that need to be adressed. This team was too good to struggle against a team like the Kings. If they couldn't beat them, they definitely weren't gonna beat the Preds or Blues, who have better goaltending and more offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js604 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Gillis just needs to get us a top 4 defenceman that can actually quarterback a powerplay, and an elite winger to play with Kesler, then we're set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyvn Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Why do people bring up Hodgson being a non-factor in the playoffs? Do they honestly think Kassian and Grags has done anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Get a coach who knows how to motivate his players when they need to be, AV can't do this and it hurt us big time in this series. With the amount of scoring power this team has even with Daniel out of the lineup, other players should of stepped up, but they didn't, because AV wasn't able to get them motivated to win. And bring in a coach who is more an offensive style coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyHockey Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Would it be considered tampering even if Gillis simply invited an old friend (K. H.) only just for dinner, especially when he has only been appointed as an interm coach for this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 that's true, but i still dont like his coaching style. seems like he has no connection with his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyHockey Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 You know that if we fire AV there will be a ton of teams scrambling to sign him. You know why? Because he's a great coach. Who would you replace him with? MacTavish? Crawford? Maurice? Unless someone like Quenville or Babcock somehow manages to get fired, AV is the best coach for us. Gillis just needs to get us a top 4 defenceman that can actually quarterback a powerplay, and an elite winger to play with Kesler, then we're set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyvn Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 How would you know ? from watching a game on tv ? from a typical hockey player interview full of cliches ? The thing is dont assume things you dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onions Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 "it's the coach!" "it's not the coach!" "then it's the scouts!" "It's not the scouts" "then it's the players!" "it's not the players" "then it's the GM!" "it's not the GM!" "then it's the coach!" "it's not the coach!" "then it's the scouts!" "It's not the scouts" "then it's the players!" "it's not the players" "then it's the GM!" "it's not the GM!" i seem to have found a pattern.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Motivate ? when did you last go into the dressing room before a game or between periods ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I think we need to calm down. Firstly MG will NOT get rid of AV, not this year at least. That is not his style, he is a guy with a moral ethic and he knows it is easy to have a pat season after the kind of season we had last year. Even then we came through and won the PT. We had players recovering from injury and we had players who we thought might have made a difference getting injured before we got going. The fact is however we were unable to acquire the type of player that would have made a real difference in the top 6 and in the defence. I for one was really annoyed at the Booth trade and am on record at the time. I took the time to go back using GC Live and look at his style and performance in Florida. I thought then, that his style wouldn't change with us and it hasn't. His one handed play gives him little or no options. He is not a bust yet, but he needs to change style and play a team game, that is the only way he will be effective. We thought we had depth but in the SC physical impact and ability to snipe goals trumps depth. Too many of our players lost form and too many were too similar. Even a player who has lost his scoring touch can make an impact if he is big enough. Regards Hodgson, I agree with DN above. He wasn't going to alter the course of these games. In fact I suspect he would have been ground out of them due to his lack of speed and physicality. What we needed was a Perry or a Getzlaf, we got Kassian. I still think we need to give AV and his coaches another season but even they will know this market has limited patience. MG in my opinion let AV down in that he, over the season, failed to get the big gritty sniper or the imposing D AV really needed. The two pieces in fact most of us KNEW we needed. He must get them now because bargain basement, and rehab acquisitions only get you so far in the long run LA invested in Richards and Carter. Two players who were instrumental in putting us out. Gillis must make a similar move if we are to impose ourselves on our opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 When was the last time you watched a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyvn Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Does AV seem like he would actually talk to his players behind closed doors? I would assume the leaders of the team would step up to that role. I only see him get mad a few times when he didn't get a power play for some calls, otherwise, he shows no emotion to the game. Whether this team is down by a goal, or down by 10, he will be chewing on that piece of gum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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