DeNiro Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 1st off, I doubt MG will be offering further contracts that look anything like Lu's so to ask Lu to part or play 2nd fiddle is in the cards. Lu will request a trade if he can't be the deisgnated starter. I disagree that LU has shown he can take us all the way. He has, as far as I'm concerned shown the exact opposite. He had regula melt-downs in the playoffs last year agains CHicago and Boston. He showed up for 4 games against Chicago and 3 against Boston. Simply not good enough. Look at Quick this las series...he wasn't as good as Cory but he made our guys work for every goal. Not a single softy. Even in game 2 this year, Lu let in a softy. He's inconsistent and on the decline. Time to mive on wiht COry. Oh...and why would we fdraft a high first rounder: develop him for 6 years; show case him as a future super star goalie and then trade him for a high first rounder?!! Absolute insanity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 What if Shneider does not want to play long term in Vancouver after what he has seen Luongo go through with our pathetic fan base and media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev's Smirk Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Lets see Quick play like that for 4 straight series. He won't be able to. Luongo is not the only one that has meltdowns. Our D has consistently been melting down ever since AV got here. Edler and Bieksa are constant turnover machines when they try and pinch, and Luongo can only bail us out so many times. We would trade him for a high first round pick because it would likely be a franchise player that can make an impact right away. Putting a guy like Grigerenko on our second line would give us a cheap impact player and allow us to spend more money upgrading our D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 1st off, I doubt MG will be offering further contracts that look anything like Lu's so to ask Lu to part or play 2nd fiddle is in the cards. Lu will request a trade if he can't be the deisgnated starter. I disagree that LU has shown he can take us all the way. He has, as far as I'm concerned shown the exact opposite. He had regula melt-downs in the playoffs last year agains CHicago and Boston. He showed up for 4 games against Chicago and 3 against Boston. Simply not good enough. Look at Quick this las series...he wasn't as good as Cory but he made our guys work for every goal. Not a single softy. Even in game 2 this year, Lu let in a softy. He's inconsistent and on the decline. Time to mive on wiht COry. Oh...and why would we fdraft a high first rounder: develop him for 6 years; show case him as a future super star goalie and then trade him for a high first rounder?!! Absolute insanity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone1 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 there just seems to be too many IFs when it comes to a Luongo trade. My guess is CS is gonna be traded for high picks and/or a top 6 forward. then again, we really need a good D man. either way I think CS is more likely to be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowitall Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I would hate to have to face Luongo....Our crappy "D" was what lost it for us....Both He and Shniides are great goalies. But IF Luo left us and we faced him in the Post season....it would not look good for us.~! word~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowitall Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 according to the nhl players, luongo is the most overrated player in the league. i guess they all must be wrong and canucks fans right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I think Burkie could woo him in Toronto. Match made in heaven for me, just need a fair trade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teen Icarus Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 It is not entirely impossible that Montreal would be in the running for a new goaltender. They like Price a lot, but he is also going to be asking for a very big contract. Montreal has beaucoup bucks tied up into players with NTC contracts and may have real difficulty in paying a goalie a $6.5 million dollar contract. On top of that, they have a huge image problem that is going to be addressed this summer. They are as much a cultural icon for Quebec as a hockey team and need to exemplify the French culture. Getting a hometown Luongo who is francophone AND Italian would be pretty sweet in that regard. I don't understand the people who are speculating that Luongo doesn't like to be in a big hockey market and have the spotlight on him. I think he wants that quite badly and that is why he signed in Canada and why he plays in things like the Olympics. Whether he is good at dealing with the pressure is a whole different topic than whether he wants the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Lets see Quick play like that for 4 straight series. He won't be able to. Luongo is not the only one that has meltdowns. Our D has consistently been melting down ever since AV got here. Edler and Bieksa are constant turnover machines when they try and pinch, and Luongo can only bail us out so many times. We would trade him for a high first round pick because it would likely be a franchise player that can make an impact right away. Putting a guy like Grigerenko on our second line would give us a cheap impact player and allow us to spend more money upgrading our D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Lu showed up in more games last year then the rest of the team did.. and we made it to game 7 SCF.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 And then we get a BC boy in Price right back again! That way, we have two excellent young goalies willing to battle things out for the starting job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I doubt we can trade Lu to Columbus. The only way CBJ is willing to part with their 2nd overall is if we trade Schneider to them. It would suck but then we would have another franchise forward in Grigorinko or if the Oilers screw up, Yakupov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucksbiggestfan Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ummm...So what if his wife is closer to home?? His wife is HERE. And they go back to Florida EVERY SUMMER anyways, so whats your point? Ya, I know they have family there...but LU has FAMILY in Montreal...so ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Lets see Quick play like that for 4 straight series. He won't be able to. Luongo is not the only one that has meltdowns. Our D has consistently been melting down ever since AV got here. Edler and Bieksa are constant turnover machines when they try and pinch, and Luongo can only bail us out so many times. We would trade him for a high first round pick because it would likely be a franchise player that can make an impact right away. Putting a guy like Grigerenko on our second line would give us a cheap impact player and allow us to spend more money upgrading our D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I was referring to trading Schneider for a top 5 pick. Grigerenko is going to be the real deal. If we can get him it would be huge not only for now but for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 YOu're right that LU isn't solely to blame but he is the piece that can be moved perhaps easiest for the best return, assumin management agrees Cory is the better long-term option for the team. If we could get a top 3 pick, maybe it would be worth it but it still feels like a gamble to me to keep Lu after his increasingly slow starts and history. Cory is an impact player now and after 6 years of grooming him and him learning his trade behind Lu, it seems like he should be worth more than a pick that might impact right away. ON a side note, a rookie with AV may never get teh chance to impact the team unti he has spent 3 years in the minors no matter how energizing, creative or effective offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbridled_id Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I can think of 4, Tampa,Florida and NJ/Toronto being the long shot. Tampa: Connolly and their pick NJ: Larsson Florida: Huberdeau Toronto: Their 1st and Gardiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well if Gillis makes a trade for a young impact player, AV better be on board with playing him or he's gone. If we can get an impact player that could be another Alexander Mogilny, I think it would make up for the loss of Schneider. Plus having an impact player on a cheap contract means that we could spend more money on D to help out Luongo. For the 2.3 mil in difference that Luongo would likely make over Schneider, I think the best move would be to go for the impact player, rather than the likely weaker return that luongo would fetch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbridled_id Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Why wouldn't a team just offer a sheet to Schneider for 3 million per year ? If he takes it all they have to give in compensation is a 2nd round pick ? I don't think at this point Schneider is worth more than that and that put Gillis on the spot..... Nobody will take lou and his contract...and the thought of Gillis having to pay 3 million to a backup is a nice one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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