freebuddy Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 How much does the team itself need to change? It seems like we can practically sleepwalk our way to the playoffs, but once we get there, that's when the problems begin. We could change coaches and get Schneids to start instead of Lu, and I think we would go much further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 New coach and new goalie = not changing much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwedishCrowns Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 To Tampa: Luongo,Raymond,Ballard,3rd Round Pick To Vancity: Mattias Ohlund, Victor Hedman, 2nd and 5th Round Pick Getting rid of Raymond is pretty self-explanatory Ballard because he is a cap bust and a failure (besides his awesome hipcheck), he is not worth 4 mil I want Mattias Ohlund because he is a forever canuck and Has great relationship with our players and the city. I love his defensive play and has great playmaking skills. He is also offensive when you want him to be and he is physical Victor Hedman- This swede is born in the same hometown as the Sedins, Has great relationship with them. He is 6'4. Great physical player. Great replacement for Ballard which is a cap bust. I would like Stamko's to come here and I would be willing to throw in a 1st round pick but We have enough centremen and top 6 forwards, UNLESS WE GET RID OF KESLER, which is not likely at all. Lines after off season: D.Sedin,H,Sedin,Burrows, Higgins/Booth,Kesler,Jensen/Hansen Malhotra,Pahlson,Higgins/Booth/Hansen Weise,Lapiere,Hansen or someone else. Not sure D Lines: Bieksa,Hamhuis Ohlund,Edler Hedman,Tanev( or Rome/Alberts) Cory (sorry, i can't spell his last name) Lack ( he may not be NHL ready but give him the preason and play him in games vs NYI,CBJ, etc. and he will get better with our great coaching staff. I am positive that Ohlund will love to come back here. We will have a total of 7 Swedes, 8 Canadians, and 4 Americans and 2 Danishs Luongo to tampa would get us MUCH more compared if we escorted him to Florida. Florida has limited skill players and we don't REALLY need toughness. Draft picks are not the best. Tampa has much more options and it is in Florida which Luongo's family loves. I ship him out there. Ohlund and Edler would be a great pairing. If Salo decides to retire, I am happy for him but if he decides to stay around, I'd trade him. I would't put him with Hedman because Tanev is doing a great job as a young player and Sami is not as reliable. Tanev didn't get a minus in like 17 consecutive games sometime around this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev's Smirk Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I would personally like to see the team attempt to acquire a true #1 defender and a true goal scorer (playoff proven). The team would need to pay, but if the goal is the cup then it will be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 i would try the amex experiment again next year...burrows back with the sedins....pick up a good d-man .....trade lu for ohlund (retiring) and purcell...rw'er...move lapierre to 3rd line center with hansen.....start kassian and gragnani on the farm and get them ready for prime time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyPerry Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 personally willing to get suter for 6 - 6.5 cap hit. i aint gillis so it aint on me, but cap gonna go up again this year, willing to pay the price to get a #1 dman, needed badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The fact of the matter is that it is BECAUSE the Canucks are able to sleepwalk through the regular season and still get 3rd or higher in our conference that we played so terribly in the playoffs. Our division poses no true challenge to us, so most of our games feel meaningless. Our team always ends up playing DOWN to the level of the rest of our division. When the regular season ends and the playoffs start, we're so used to playing down to the people in our division that we can't step it up into that next gear to play appropriately. I honestly think that we should attempt to get a 1st line goal scorer or a top line defenseman. Having a solid goal scorer paired with the sedins will make that top line complete. Although I absolutely love what Burrows brings to that line, I think that it would benefit to have Burrows on the second line to give us two depth scoring lines, a shutdown line, and a grind line. As for a top defenceman, it seems like we always have 3-4 good defensemen, 1 bubble player, and one AHLer. This year we had Salo/Edler/Hamuis/Bieksa as our top 4. Our bubble player was Tanev who played awesome when used. Ballard was out most of the season with injury, and the rest of our defense are career AHLers. We need a top line defensemen to pair with Hamuis for a shutdown pair. If we can get either one of those (you won't get both) for Luongo, I think we have a legitimate shot next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamadian33 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 We need rest, and to get the best out of what we have next year, there is already chemistry and a lot of time invested in that room. Look at LA, and Ottawa more so Ottawa without major personnel changes but some direction and getting things together and they are complete turnarounds when no one saw it coming. We have some of the best players in the league and possibly the best collective of players anywhere. They are not firing on all cylinders we can all blame individuals but thats not it. They played too long last season, just like Boston which is the same story, they are fighting to survive and most likely won't go past the 2nd round. Now let them golf, relax and get a full off season training program and get them hungry again for 2012-2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Revoke the press passes of the idiots at the Province.... Other than that, stay the course, and as Gillis said, a bit younger, bigger and stronger where possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevernucks19 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 OMG!! I WISH OLLIE CAME BACK!!!!!!! He cant, hes injured, and has a 7 year deal with TB...so I HIGHLY doubt that. And people have been saying that, IF we do trade Schneids, we would get a BETTER return, than we would with Lu. I'd rather fix up the depth to help us become a better, more dangerous team, then change our goalies, our goalies werent the prob here. Like Schneids said "We (him and Lu), could be coming back together next season, we're good friends". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 We coast to the playoffs cos our division sucks We need to be awesome at 5 on 5, play hockey and stop trying to get the call. The above requires a complete team mentality and attitude change. This is either catylized by hhe coach or assumed by our core. If the core won't do it then the core needs to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck4evr Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'm pretty certain that Schneids did start 3 of the 5 playoff games without the desired results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkin'2929 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 They need to change enough to be able to score goals. I'm sure MG will probably disagree, but I don't see any real point in continuing on with a core group that cannot score. The team will just hit another brick wall, not if but when they enter the Playoffs next season. Keep Daniel and Henrik, and trade away what we can for scoring talent. Vancouver has a high enough profile to attract major talent from around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheels22 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 To Tampa: Luongo,Raymond,Ballard,3rd Round Pick To Vancity: Mattias Ohlund, Victor Hedman, 2nd and 5th Round Pick Getting rid of Raymond is pretty self-explanatory Ballard because he is a cap bust and a failure (besides his awesome hipcheck), he is not worth 4 mil I want Mattias Ohlund because he is a forever canuck and Has great relationship with our players and the city. I love his defensive play and has great playmaking skills. He is also offensive when you want him to be and he is physical Victor Hedman- This swede is born in the same hometown as the Sedins, Has great relationship with them. He is 6'4. Great physical player. Great replacement for Ballard which is a cap bust. I would like Stamko's to come here and I would be willing to throw in a 1st round pick but We have enough centremen and top 6 forwards, UNLESS WE GET RID OF KESLER, which is not likely at all. Lines after off season: D.Sedin,H,Sedin,Burrows, Higgins/Booth,Kesler,Jensen/Hansen Malhotra,Pahlson,Higgins/Booth/Hansen Weise,Lapiere,Hansen or someone else. Not sure D Lines: Bieksa,Hamhuis Ohlund,Edler Hedman,Tanev( or Rome/Alberts) Cory (sorry, i can't spell his last name) Lack ( he may not be NHL ready but give him the preason and play him in games vs NYI,CBJ, etc. and he will get better with our great coaching staff. I am positive that Ohlund will love to come back here. We will have a total of 7 Swedes, 8 Canadians, and 4 Americans and 2 Danishs Luongo to tampa would get us MUCH more compared if we escorted him to Florida. Florida has limited skill players and we don't REALLY need toughness. Draft picks are not the best. Tampa has much more options and it is in Florida which Luongo's family loves. I ship him out there. Ohlund and Edler would be a great pairing. If Salo decides to retire, I am happy for him but if he decides to stay around, I'd trade him. I would't put him with Hedman because Tanev is doing a great job as a young player and Sami is not as reliable. Tanev didn't get a minus in like 17 consecutive games sometime around this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckelhead70 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 nobody razzed Detroit when they were cleaning up in their division with St. Louis, Chicago, Columbus and Nashville when all those teams were not at the level they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KING ALBERTS Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 To Tampa: Luongo,Raymond,Ballard,3rd Round Pick To Vancity: Mattias Ohlund, Victor Hedman, 2nd and 5th Round Pick Getting rid of Raymond is pretty self-explanatory Ballard because he is a cap bust and a failure (besides his awesome hipcheck), he is not worth 4 mil I want Mattias Ohlund because he is a forever canuck and Has great relationship with our players and the city. I love his defensive play and has great playmaking skills. He is also offensive when you want him to be and he is physical Victor Hedman- This swede is born in the same hometown as the Sedins, Has great relationship with them. He is 6'4. Great physical player. Great replacement for Ballard which is a cap bust. I would like Stamko's to come here and I would be willing to throw in a 1st round pick but We have enough centremen and top 6 forwards, UNLESS WE GET RID OF KESLER, which is not likely at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckCup1316 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Things we need to change? First we need to have only one number one goalie. If you have read the comments of both players it would just be an unwanted distraction. Players that should or could also be sent out? I would say Booth, he never really jelled with anyone on this team but does have a skill set and should get us some quality returns. Raymond, he has toooo much mental problems and he would probably do better in a U.S. market without the pressure. If we had to part with any of our current D in order to help land a bonafide elite D man then I would say that Ballard, then Rome , Alberts, Tanev are all possibles. Overall we need a top D man and a proven clutch playoff goal scorer. I loved Ohlund when he was here before but he is getting long in the tooth and would not help the team get over the hump at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ẉolverine Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Not much. Just need Kesler and Booth to gain chemistry (if it's even possible) and maybe bring in a top-6 winger who can pass the puck for that line (AKA... no more need for Raymond). I really hope our 3rd line is brought back... sign Pahlsson for 2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanev's Smirk Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Not much. Just need Kesler and Booth to gain chemistry (if it's even possible) and maybe bring in a top-6 winger who can pass the puck for that line (AKA... no more need for Raymond). I really hope our 3rd line is brought back... sign Pahlsson for 2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ẉolverine Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The answer to the Kesler question may just be to drop Burrows to the second line and move Booth up. Booth looked alright with the Sedins in his few games and we all know Burrows and Kesler work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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