Mookie Wilson Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Link: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks/Vancouver+Canucks+trade+Ryan+Kesler+unthinkable/6513132/story.html If Gillis decides he'd like to give this team a new look, I think he will strongly consider trading Kesler. This article draws attention to the rationale for trading Kesler, including: 1) remaking the team's image, 2) remaking the team's on-ice make-up, which over the last few seasons has lived & died with Kesler's production 3) practical considerations (i.e. Kesler does not now have a NTC, but will have one kicking in soon), 4) Kesler's trade value. I will let the article speak for itself on those matters. One thing the article does not consider is how the Canucks could actually improve next year after trading Kesler. Yes, the Flyers traded both Richards and Carter last off-season and seem to be both younger and better this year. But they already had Giroux and Briere in place as top-2 centres. The Canucks do not have an internal replacement for Kesler. And furthermore, what team is going to give up a centre as effective as Kesler in any trade? While I would support trading Kesler as a means to re-making the team's image and picking up pieces towards the development of a new, younger core, I cannot fathom how the Canucks could do that while remaining a contender next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giroux28 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 He took a MAJOR discount to stay here and be apart of the core that all have taken a paycut in order to stick together and try to win a championship. I highly doubt Kes will be traded, Gillis will stick by his commitment to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everybody Hates Raymond Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 He's not untouchable but it's unlikely. His value is arguably at an all time low and we have no idea if he can return to form after long offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demo250 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 He took a MAJOR discount to stay here and be apart of the core that all have taken a paycut in order to stick together and try to win a championship. I highly doubt Kes will be traded, Gillis will stick by his commitment to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giroux28 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 He did? I remember everyone originally thinking we massively overpaid him, but then he proved everyone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 No way they trade him. He is a heart and soul player and will do anything to win. He is a very important part of this organization and a core member. Besides MG just traded Hodgson. If Kesler was going don't you think MG would have traded him instead, and given Cody the minutes he was crying for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onions Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I think he needs to stop playing if he's injured. he clearly doesn't do as well as he normally does and an upper body injury since Feb is not good. The team has a lot of depth and I can understand him wanting to play but the lack of production this season should be a big wake up call for him. Playing injured is not helping the team. He needs to pull himself together and recover over the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 kesler for weber. lecavalier for luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demo250 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 $5M per season is a steal for a player like Kesler, compared to the likes of contracts signed as early as last off-season (Leino in Buffalo, Connolly in Toronto to name a few that each make $4.5M per). Kesler had an off year, that is no reason to drive him out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Wilson Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 kesler for weber. lecavalier for luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.joh91 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Kesler is the most versatile player on our team. I don't think we'll be getting rid of him anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 What the hell? Why would we trade him? If we were going to trade him we would have kept CoHo. Kesler won the Selke trophy last year and had hip surgery in the off season so he couldn't work out and was behind all season. At the end of the year his shoulder was messed up and now he may need shoulder surgery. If he gets the shoulder surgery done early enough Kesler will be able to work out all summer and he will return to his dominate form. It would be the dumbest move Gillis has done if he trades Kesler. I also think with a full summer of working out and training Malhotra will return to form next year. People don't realize how being hurt all summer and not being able to work out really, really affects your game. Look at Stamkos. In the first half of his first season in the NHL he was struggling. The second half of that season he turned it around. You know why? Cause he got into shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas19 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The dreaded double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 God damn it is vancouver hockey fans really this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckbeliever Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I know my opinion like Ian's is in the minority but I believe it is time to do deal Kesler. The offence was very anemic in the playoffs and in the end irregardless of whether Kes was injured or not, he is to shoulder a lot of the blame for it. His antics are also getting very old. He was told to stop his whining and his crap before the start of last season and clearly the message has not been sent to him. Game 1 of the playoffs was a prime example and it continued through out. He defines why so many other teams hate our team. I have also heard several people say (some related to the canucks) that Kesler is not really well liked in the locker room. Will not really divulge names but it is something that many people say and all rumors have a hint of truth to them. I think if Gillis wants to send a message to the team and say I am not going to take this crap of under performing in the playoffs then Kesler is the guy to trade. Now there are problems, such as no second line center waiting on the wings. Undoubtedly, the trade would be slightly convuluded as you would have to get a second line center however I think if we could do Shea Weber+ for Kesler or that type of elite defencemen, you would have to STRONGLY consider it and probably pull the trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckbeliever Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 $5M per season is a steal for a player like Kesler, compared to the likes of contracts signed as early as last off-season (Leino in Buffalo, Connolly in Toronto to name a few that each make $4.5M per). Kesler had an off year, that is no reason to drive him out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanstorm Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Who else could wear the 'C' after the Sedins are gone? No trade Kes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveFerris Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I normally would be dead against trading Kesler until I saw the flopping/diving. This irritated me to no end. After seeing this, I'm definitely open to letting him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 $5M per season is a steal for a player like Kesler, compared to the likes of contracts signed as early as last off-season (Leino in Buffalo, Connolly in Toronto to name a few that each make $4.5M per). Kesler had an off year, that is no reason to drive him out of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I know.... I agree with you, that's why I said he proved everyone wrong. I was just saying, at the time I thought I remember everyone thinking we had overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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