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There's One, Glaring, Major Upside For An Early Elimination.


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#1 Everybody Hates Raymond

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:51 AM

Players like Kesler and Malhotra get a full offseason to heal up. That alone, in my opinion, is enough to be okay with the elimination.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:54 AM

Doesn't Kesler already need another surgery? If anything this will just be another summer where he'll sit out rehabbing.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:57 AM

Also give Kassian a full summer to workout with the Canucks trainers. Watch out for him next year.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:57 AM

Players like Kesler and Malhotra get a full offseason to heal up. That alone, in my opinion, is enough to be okay with the elimination.


I strenuously object.

There's no upside ever for an early elimination.

I am not okay with this team missing the playoffs.
I am not okay with this team getting eliminated in the first round.
I am not okay with this team getting eliminated ever!

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:57 AM

I think Kesler is pushing way too hard this season. Holding on the his stick too tightly.
A injury since Feb. is not something you hold off to fix till April.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:59 AM

Also give Kassian a full summer to workout with the Canucks trainers. Watch out for him next year.

hopefully not. I'd rather him have a full summer with gary roberts or anyone else.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

Malhotra is injured? I'm pretty sure they have already done everything they can with his eye? That's just the way it's gonna be for him from now on.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:02 PM

I think Kesler is pushing way too hard this season. Holding on the his stick too tightly.
A injury since Feb. is not something you hold off to fix till April.

If it means a season ending recovery then yes it does especially when you play like warrior like he does
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:12 PM

Doesn't Kesler already need another surgery? If anything this will just be another summer where he'll sit out rehabbing.


No. They have to look at his injury and see. :rolleyes: He won't have surgery, the injury was used more as an excuse for poor play than anything.

After the 2009/2010 Kesler in his exit interview said almost the exact same thing as he did this year and no surgery ever happened that offseason.

Trevor Linden was certainly playing hurt in 1994 when he scored 2 Goals in Game#7. Was Kesler playing hurt? Perhaps but not hurt enough to excuse poor play and flopping. If his shoulder was really badly hurt perhaps he shouldn't have kept flopping to the ice because that couldn't have helped.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:15 PM

People who don't play hockey shouldn't be lecturing real hockey players on how to do their jobs.

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Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:16 PM

Trevor Linden was certainly playing hurt in 1994 when he scored 2 Goals in Game#7. Was Kesler playing hurt? Perhaps but not hurt enough to excuse poor play and flopping. If his shoulder was really badly hurt perhaps he shouldn't have kept flopping to the ice because that couldn't have helped.


Yup, all inuries are the same too. If you have a broken leg, and I have a strained wrist, you better be able to give me a good wrestling match, because hey, we are both hurt.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:18 PM

There is reason to be optimistic about next year - trading Lou/Schneids alone should be a big help. A long offseason can't hurt.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:18 PM

Michael Wilbon disagrees.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

The major upside to the canucks early elimination is the focus the whitecaps will get this spring/summer now that they stand alone in the vancouver sporting landscape. If all we talk about all summer is "what do the canucks need to do for next year" and disregard the whitecaps who are actually playing, I will be upset. I hope to see a lot of sellouts this summer at BC Place without the competition of the canucks for attention.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

I strenuously object.

There's no upside ever for an early elimination.

I am not okay with this team missing the playoffs.
I am not okay with this team getting eliminated in the first round.
I am not okay with this team getting eliminated ever!





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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

Yup, all inuries are the same too. If you have a broken leg, and I have a strained wrist, you better be able to give me a good wrestling match, because hey, we are both hurt.


Using your analogy, Kesler was the one with the strained wrist and Linden was the one with the broken leg.

Linden played the last 4 games of the Stanley Cup with cracked ribs and torn rib cartilage. http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=397641

Kesler played with a shoulder injury that wasn't bad enough to even be given a maintenance day down the stretch.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:27 PM

No. They have to look at his injury and see. :rolleyes: He won't have surgery, the injury was used more as an excuse for poor play than anything.

After the 2009/2010 Kesler in his exit interview said almost the exact same thing as he did this year and no surgery ever happened that offseason.

Trevor Linden was certainly playing hurt in 1994 when he scored 2 Goals in Game#7. Was Kesler playing hurt? Perhaps but not hurt enough to excuse poor play and flopping. If his shoulder was really badly hurt perhaps he shouldn't have kept flopping to the ice because that couldn't have helped.


Perhaps you need to change your name to Dr.gradin123, since you obviously know more than any of us about his injury and what he will and will not need

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Personally I agree.

For those of us that watched the exit interviews we heard that the off season means a lot. Malholtra and Raymond both started the season late due to their injuries. Malholtra's eye is continuing to improve but more-so, is his confidence. Neither player felt they were up to their usual game.

While Bieksa and Kesler admitted to injuries both were quick to mention they won't use that as an excuse. Whether Kes needs surgery or not isn't the issue, getting him rehabbed is. It's not a matter of playing through pain, its a matter of trying to make a move and your body physically not responding. I've torn a shoulder too, whether it hurt or not, drunk or sober, I could NOT lift that arm past level.

I don't think we are debating a long offseason vs. the cup. I think the OP was pointing out the silver lining. I agree. It will be good to have our players fit, focus and rested for next season, plus allowing new players like Kassian to work with training staff and hone skills.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

No. They have to look at his injury and see. :rolleyes: He won't have surgery, the injury was used more as an excuse for poor play than anything.

After the 2009/2010 Kesler in his exit interview said almost the exact same thing as he did this year and no surgery ever happened that offseason.

Trevor Linden was certainly playing hurt in 1994 when he scored 2 Goals in Game#7. Was Kesler playing hurt? Perhaps but not hurt enough to excuse poor play and flopping. If his shoulder was really badly hurt perhaps he shouldn't have kept flopping to the ice because that couldn't have helped.


Uh, the hip surgery we're all talking about says HI

edit: Doh, just realized the surgery would have been the next offseason :bigblush:

Edited by arsenalian, 25 April 2012 - 12:33 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

Yeah, let's start looking at the positives. We also get a higher draft pick. :)
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

Uh, the hip surgery we're all talking about says HI


I'm not talking about last year. He clearly was playing through significant injury last year. I am talking about the 2009/2010 season. In that years playoffs he had 1 Goal in 12 Games and afterwards said he was playing through a shoulder injury that may need surgery. No surgery ever happened.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

People who don't play hockey shouldn't be lecturing real hockey players on how to do their jobs.

I suppose you would never tell any politicians how to do their jobs would you?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:37 PM

Perhaps you need to change your name to Dr.gradin123, since you obviously know more than any of us about his injury and what he will and will not need


He said the exact same thing after the 2010 season when he had a poor playoffs. Fool me once shame on me, but you ain't fooling me twice.

Remember this

. http://www2.canada.c...68-1834ced84404

Sound familiar? If it is not an excuse then why does it keep coming up. There was no surgery that offseason.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

There is no upside to being the pres trophy winner and going out in 5 games in the first round.
What is worse is the way they lost, this team appeared to have no desire this year, it was painful to watch.
As far as rest goes it will be good, but that's about it for up side to going down early.
Mabey the other upside could be that the team has more time to search their hearts and see if they can't find some pride for next season and the will to bring home the cup.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

I strenuously object.

There's no upside ever for an early elimination.

I am not okay with this team missing the playoffs.
I am not okay with this team getting eliminated in the first round.
I am not okay with this team getting eliminated ever!


Do you understand what an upside even is? Things are rarely, if ever, all good or all bad.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

I don't think we would have won the cup. Early exit is better than 2nd, 3rd round. More time to rest/recover

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

Lets put it this way.
Not all injuries are the same. I blew my knee out. It healed but I had no strength in it. There was no pain, but I just could not get that leg to perform for two years.

I am sure that Keslers injury could be similar. He looks fine, but his body just didn't generate the strength needed to be effective.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

Also give Kassian a full summer to workout with the Canucks trainers. Watch out for him next year.



That's a scary thought im sure AV and MG have a game plan and discuss what they want and expect from him next year.

Being a man child at the age of 21 6'4 and 230 pounds with the potential to still get bigger and stronger definitely watch out.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 12:58 PM

Do we pick earlier now too?

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:05 PM

Do we pick earlier now too?


Not really. The Canucks pick 26th.




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