Despite the disparaging remarks and the disrespectful tone I'm afraid the facts speak for themselves.
Mason Raymond was put on that team at the earliest opportunity because our coach obviously knows more about hockey than you ever will. He remained there and WAS one of the best playoff performers.........despite your loitering around rinks since the age of 3.
Mason Raymond has countless scouting testimonies which bare out his qualities. An article quoting these scouts even appeared on these Boards not long ago.
A player travelling at greater speed IS undoubtedly more likely to be hurt in an impact unless you are re writing the laws of physics. Your hockey knowledge, it seems, is not broad enough to inform you that it is not always or even usually the skater with the puck's decision of whether he is going to be hit. Are you sure it wasn't pool you grew up watching from the age of 3?
My opinion of Raymond being hard-nosed in comparison to Sweatt is I'm afraid indisputable.
My opinion on Sweatt choking while slightly unkind, I admit, (I should have said overawed) was I think backed up by the fact he was not brought up again. As I say I like Bill Sweatt and I am sure he will eventually be a good player for the Canucks, unfortunately that call up was just too early imo.
No doubt you will continue to climb the wall in agony at the thought that MR is still a Canuck, while I on the other hand remain happy that if he he is good enough to get the jersey, he'll always have my support.
By the way, your sheep reference? Wrong part of Scotland. I live on a lovely part of the coast in an agricultural area. If you've seen Chariots of Fire, you will have a perfect picture.
Well, at least you're finally right about a couple of things(will wonders never cease). Yes, the facts do speak for themselves... and the facts are that Raymond has sucked for two straight years now. That's a fact. Another fact is, that yes AV does know more about hockey than I do. And I know, and I would hazzard to guess that 99% of the rest of this site knows more than you do. But imagine that, a former NHL coach of the year knowing more than a long time fan. In saying all that, when Raymond first came up, the team wasn't nearly as good as what it is now and didn't have nearly the depth. Which of course you would know nothing about because you never seen the team play back then. So, please talk about what you know about best, like the intricacy of courting sheep and leave the hockey talk to those of us who know what we're talking about. It's also not unheard of for a coach to be loyal to a player based on potential and showing glimpses of being a useful player. AV also has a very bad habit of playing favorites, hence why Aaaron Rome has been given too much playing time. Also, the coach can only use players that he's provided by management.
Another fact is, that you seem to think that Raymond was one of the top players for the Canucks in the playoffs, which wouldn't be saying a whole lot. But, if he were as good as what you seem to think, with his whopping 1 assist, then why did the coach demote him to the 4th line and say that he wasn't playing good enough or producing enough to play on the first 3 lines. Those were the facts. I guess if the coach knows more than me, then he sure as hell knows more than you, as he did the exact opposite than what you think. Please explain this to us?
As for the scouts thoughts on Raymond, I'd be willing to bet that most of the scouting was done on Raymond as he entered the NHL. I would also be willing to bet that all of the scouts weren't exactly sold on Raymond while some might have been. And even the ones who did like him as a player didn't have only positive things to say about Raymond as I'm sure the negatives were there and have only multiplied from then to now.
Maybe you can't read but I said that Raymond isn't more likely to get hurt even though he skates faster and that's because he shies away from contact of any kind. It's pretty hard to get hurt when you don't initiate contact and shy away and avoid contact at all costs attempted at you. This is why I mentioned Hansen. He skates as fast or almost as fast as Raymond while also being a physical "hard nosed" player. He's more likely to get hurt because of his speed and physicality. So, maybe you should re-try your physics theory. Speed + Contact = a greater risk of injury, where as Speed + NO CONTACT(unless of course you consider him tripping and falling over his own shadow) = less risk of injury.
Not to mention that you've just proved that it's actually field hockey that you've been following because if it was "ice hockey", then you'd know that this is a contact sport and the player with the puck is ALWAYS preparing to get hit , because in case you haven't noticed, which you likely haven't, "ice hockey" is a contact sport. It might not be his decision but last time I checked, he didn't have the right to make that decision. But more often than not, when Raymond's about to be hit, he'll get rid of the puck and chase it so as not to have to take any hits by going into the middle of the ice or high traffic areas.
And if everything else didn't prove your idiocy, then you calling Bill Sweatt a choker sure proved it. Choker = to perform badly in a critical situation. Is this really what you think Sweatt did. Were the two games that he got in the early/middle part of the season really that critical? You even admit that he was called up before he was ready and yet you still call him a choker? The young guy had 10-12 minutes to prove himself in his first shot at the NHL level and you call him a choker. You really don't have a clue. Now you're trying to backtrack by saying you may have been too unkind??? No, what it was, was just a blatantly wrong choice of words and a moronic comment which is the only thing that you have shown any consistency about.....well, that and your denial about Raymond playing terribly for the better part of 2 years.
And I think that we'll find out soon enough if he's good enough to keep the jersey.
Couldn't care less what part of Scotland you're from as it doesn't seem to help your hockey knowledge, which is all I care about. Maybe you've been inhaling too much dung from all of that agriculture around you and it's affecting your last living brain cell......but maybe that's why you and the sheep get along so well.
Edited by Drop Em, 02 May 2012 - 01:23 AM.