Kes_4_Pres Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 There's a much greater chance that Kassian turns out to be Steve Bernier rather than Cam Neely. Obviously, we should be hoping that he does reach his potential, which is probably a 50-70 point power forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 If Zach could get any where near the player Neely was this is a win. Neely is a 50 in 50 guy. Not too many of those around. I think Zach is a Chris Neal guy. If he can match Neal's play I would be happy with the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 There's a much greater chance that Kassian turns out to be Steve Bernier rather than Cam Neely. Obviously, we should be hoping that he does reach his potential, which is probably a 50-70 point power forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsey Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 people/fans rarely look at trades for the long term. In the short term we lose, but in the long term if Kassian works hard he can be a great power forward and a huge part of our stanley cup victory (within the next 3 years ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 OH YEAH!? well Kassian could be Duncan Keith, and Hodgson could be Pekka Rinne. Kassian is Kassian is Kassian isn't Hodgson isn't Neely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Loungo Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Neely and Kassian both have curly brown hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yes really. Zack is 21. And, since the trade, he was not effective for us in the slightest at the age of 21. That's the only stat that counts. Considering we are in a window to win now while the Sedin's are in their prime; trading for a guy who is not ready for the big time was a bad idea. Unless you get a dynamic young talent, trading for proven veterans is a much more proven tactic. Who cares if he develops when the Twins are 35. Trading your more established talents for cheaper developing ones is a way teams rebuild, not win championships. Maybe MG thought he was managing Calgary in a bad dream? Edit: But lets not give MG an out. When he made the trade, the speech was something like "the trade was made" to tip the scales back in our favour regarding some of the physical match ups we would face. That's paraphrasing, but what was said. More recently, it was made "for the future." That's as clear an indication as your going to get that he realizes now that he blew it. Very recently, amidst strong criticism, the conversation was put directly that Hodgson was a pain. It regressed into justification. Lets face the facts; amidst the frustration of dealing with CoHo he made a dumb decision! Really? If you're gonna throw stats out there then throw them out for both sides. Bertuzzi? Tim Thomas? How long did it take them to develop? There's heaps more I just don't have the energy to look them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn12 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Pederson was on his way out.. Both Hodgson n Kassian = just started their careers.. Terrible trade comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd71 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Really? If you're gonna throw stats out there then throw them out for both sides. Bertuzzi? Tim Thomas? How long did it take them to develop? There's heaps more I just don't have the energy to look them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yeah because how you speak indicates how smart you are!! Heard of Stephen Hawking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py17 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 cody has one flaw and its a major one. speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dura_mater Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Edit: But lets not give MG an out. When he made the trade, the speech was something like "the trade was made" to tip the scales back in our favour regarding some of the physical match ups we would face. That's paraphrasing, but what was said. More recently, it was made "for the future." That's as clear an indication as your going to get that he realizes now that he blew it. Very recently, amidst strong criticism, the conversation was put directly that Hodgson was a pain. It regressed into justification. Lets face the facts; amidst the frustration of dealing with CoHo he made a dumb decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 LOL Naslund was a top 3 goal scorer and offensive player in the league. Hodgson Is a 50 point 2nd line center in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Kassian is the young, unproven, power forward that Neely was when the Canucks traded him for Barry Pederson. Hodgson is the smaller, softer, more proven player that Pederson was before Boston sent him our way... after a major injury/surgery. Zack's ceiling is way higher than Cody's in my opinion. He's a better skater, he has an above average NHL body, and he's got good hands. He's also been through way more adversity in his life than Cody has which I believe makes him a stronger person. The fact that he's willing to drop the gloves for his team also says a great deal about his drive/desire to succeed. Tearing a back muscle and hearing negative things from his coach was traumatic for Cody... Don't get me wrong, I like Hodgson and I think he will be a solid player for buffalo, I just feel that some of you are insistent on seeing the glass half empty rather than realizing Gillis may have actually done his homework here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 cody has one flaw and its a major one. speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PUNJABI CANUCK Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hodgson will be the better player in his career. Kassian can become a solid 2nd liner or he'll be a bust. Think Milan Lucic and Steve Bernier (everyone knows who these guys are...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Don't worry folks. The trade can be no where as bad as Kessel for Seguin and Hamilton. Seguin had the best +/- of the Boston forwards in the playoffs, and had 3 points (At clutch times may I add). Seguin had 67 points (Leading the Bruins in the regular season), and 29 goals, and +34, oh and he's 20 years old. Kessel who did have 82 points, -10, and 37 goals, but he's 24. Seguin is only 15 points shy of a career year for Kessel! Dougie Hamilton with the Ice Dogs in the OHL had 72 points and +37 in 50 games...FROM a D-MAN! He has 17 points and +13 in 14 games in the OHL playoffs once again this is a defenseman, not a forward! Burke got raped. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uber_pwnzor Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So what you're saying is basicly that Bertuzzi was a better player than Gretzky just because he had a bigger body and was tougher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfreako Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Kassian is Kassian, Neely is Neely, Hodgson is Hodgson, and Pederson is Pederson. I can't believe people are still making new threads about this trade so long after the trade deadline. It's gonna be a long off-season guys. Go outside, get some fresh air, take your kids to the park or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 cody has one flaw and its a major one. speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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