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Cory Schneider May Already Be The Best Goalie In The Nhl

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Schnider is pretty much guaranteed the Veznia next year, book it.

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Terrible. Why don't you let Schneider play a full season as a starter first. Like all the ones you're comparing him to. There's going to be a harsh reality if luongo leaves.

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yea, I know he will improve even more in the 2nd round this year.... CDC...a world of it's own indeed.

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Let him have his first NHL FULL season as the number 1 goalie, then we'll see how it goes.. We all have high hopes for Schneids especially now he will be the number 1 goalie.

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You want harsh realities? How about:

2008 - In a fight for a playoff spot, Lu completely falls apart down the stretch. His save percentage for the final six games? .837!

2009 - After a phenomenal series against the Blues, Luongo's performance was hit-and-miss. But in the 6th and deciding game, what a miss! As the Canucks kept piling on the goals to try to outscore his mistakes, he just got worse and worse. He finished the game allowing 7 goals on 30 shots - a save percentage of .767

2010 - Again, Chicago manages to perforate him at the worst of times. He had a strong 1st and 5th game, but his save percentage in the other four games was a measly .860

2011 - Manages not to completely blow it against Chicago this time around (had to start Schneider once to calm him down a bit), and goes on to play very well...until he gets to Boston. It's strange, because he played so well in the three wins he did have, but with Thomas' goaltending and Boston's defense, he needed to give us a chance to win a 4th game with 2-3 goals, but he never did. We were out of that 6th game before the 1st period was over.

2012 - Didn't play bad, but gave up a bad goal in each game. And in a tight-checking series, that's the difference between winning and losing. Losing the first two games at home? Series is pretty much done, despite Schneider coming in and playing lights-out.

Here it is in a nutshell...

Save Percentage Of Final Playoff Game:

2009 - .767

2010 - .857

2011 - .850

2012 - .946

Without thinking of the name on the back of the jersey, which year did our elimination have nothing to do with goaltending?

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...Luongo is an excellent goaltender. However, he is OBVIOUSLY prone to meltdowns. We've tried it with him, and failed. It's time to move on.

Even a "special" child like yourself should understand that.

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You want harsh realities? How about:

2008 - In a fight for a playoff spot, Lu completely falls apart down the stretch. His save percentage for the final six games? .837!

2009 - After a phenomenal series against the Blues, Luongo's performance was hit-and-miss. But in the 6th and deciding game, what a miss! As the Canucks kept piling on the goals to try to outscore his mistakes, he just got worse and worse. He finished the game allowing 7 goals on 30 shots - a save percentage of .767

2010 - Again, Chicago manages to perforate him at the worst of times. He had a strong 1st and 5th game, but his save percentage in the other four games was a measly .860

2011 - Manages not to completely blow it against Chicago this time around (had to start Schneider once to calm him down a bit), and goes on to play very well...until he gets to Boston. It's strange, because he played so well in the three wins he did have, but with Thomas' goaltending and Boston's defense, he needed to give us a chance to win a 4th game with 2-3 goals, but he never did. We were out of that 6th game before the 1st period was over.

2012 - Didn't play bad, but gave up a bad goal in each game. And in a tight-checking series, that's the difference between winning and losing. Losing the first two games at home? Series is pretty much done, despite Schneider coming in and playing lights-out.

Here it is in a nutshell...

Save Percentage Of Final Playoff Game:

2009 - .767

2010 - .857

2011 - .850

2012 - .946

Without thinking of the name on the back of the jersey, which year did our elimination have nothing to do with goaltending?

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...Luongo is an excellent goaltender. However, he is OBVIOUSLY prone to meltdowns. We've tried it with him, and failed. It's time to move on.

Even a "special" child like yourself should understand that.

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Hey guys this may sound dumb but I just had 2 sorta fun Q, 1) What do you think we could have gotten for luongo the year he had 47 wins and dominated and 2) What do you think we could get for him if he had like only 3 years left on his contract today?

I understand if you think its a dumb Q , just curious

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1 - Dominik Hašek - 0.922 - 735 regular season games

2 - Tim Thomas - 0.921 - 378 regular season games

3 - Pekka Rinne - 0.921 - 250 regular season games

4 - Henrik Lundqvist - 0.920 - 468 regular season games

5 - Roberto Luongo - 0.919 - 727 regular season games

Sorry but yes 68 games DOES skew that save percentage.

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You want harsh realities? How about:

2008 - In a fight for a playoff spot

2009 - After a phenomenal series against the Blues(in the playoffs)

2010 - Again(made the playoffs)

2011 - Manages not to completely blow it(?)against Chicago this time around (had to start Schneider once to calm him down a bit), and goes on to play very well...( in the playoffs)

2012 - Didn't play bad(in the playoffs?)

Here it is in a nutshell...( he gets us to the playoffs every year, like how we went to the playoffs every year before him?)

Even a "special" child like YOURSELF should understand that.

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While 68 games might be a small sample size I don't think anyone would refute Schneider as a clutch goaltender.

Stats are excellent and for most goalies it takes longer to hit their prime (28-32) while Schneider could just be entering his prime. Those stats for a 26 y/o are amazing. Schneider should be the starter.

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Bolded: That's factually incorrect, the below players have a career save percentage of 1.00

Mike Murphy - 1.00

Brian Foster -  1.00

This player also has a better career save percentage:

Anton Khudobin - 0.961

See I can play the stats game as well.

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Numbers will dip a bit when he is the #1.

With that said, the astronomical drop off some people are predicting don't seem to understand goal-tending. The guy is sound positionally, that is why he is a good goalie. I haven't seen a single tendency that would be considered a bad habit in him yet, and his greatest weakness is one that can be avoided altogether (his puck handling). That doesn't mean it is impossible that he will have a tendency but his technique is basically 'textbook perfection' from what I have seen.

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