TheCammer Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Saying Schneider is not ready for playing a full season is pure speculation without any basis.All its meant to do is take the focus off Lou. For the record, Lou has not done very well lately playing a lot of games. He doesn;t show up in October causing the team to lose points, has mini slumps through the season and lacks consistency, Its fear of the unknown that makes fans nervous about Cory , an unfounded fear. I don;t think this situation comes as a surprise to Lou ,so..,wondering why all the Lou birds are stunned. The writing was on the wall !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 How can yoy say Luongo gives us the best chance to win Downunda when everything ,(management, stats) say otherwise??? Lou was ok this year but inconsistant, his playoff record is 32 and 29...Schneider is more consistant because he is technically and athltically better....read BETTER !!! it is for these reasons that Lou is playing second fiddle now. Lou had a great 2010-11 season but since then has spurned the teachings of Melanson which addressed his shortcomings . You can have your opinions but at some point you will have to face the reality that its just not luck that makes Schneids better or that Lou will find consistancy because his game does not promote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Cause hating on Luongo is popular so everyone does it. And apparently Vancouver fans always need a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Cause hating on Luongo is popular so everyone does it. And apparently Vancouver fans always need a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Great post! One of the best posts I've seen in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 ...and because the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. This team needs an attitude adjustment and a new identity. The core group has not achieved what they were supposed to and changes need to be made. Lu has done some great things but he has also been a major distraction at times and his struggles are closely associated with why this team has struggled in the playoffs. Lu is a larger-than0life figure that can be a lightening rod for controversy because of his emotional behaviour and untimely comments. Sometimes a change is necessary even if not deserved. For the good of the team, it amy be time for Lu to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Doing the same thing again and again huh? You mean like pretending Mason Raymond is a top 6 forward? Or pretending that we don't need a legit number 1 defenceman? Or maybe that we can get by without toughness in the playoffs? Or that we don't need a third line center that can actually put up points? There's lots of things this team has had problems with that have never been adressed. Goaltending is a long ways down my list. I'm more concerned about the stuff I just listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justsayin Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 This core is not going to win a cup. Flame me all you want, but the team had it's shot last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970 and beyond Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 This core is not going to win a cup. Flame me all you want, but the team had it's shot last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 +1'd you. It was hard to do because I like the core group. They have been together for quite a few years now without the success we/they all want to see. Sadly, I think some changes need to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 So when the Penguins lost in 2008 they should have dismantled their team and traded Fleury right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmccomb Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 lol @ the OP. All of that typing for nothing. The answer is simple, the Salary Cap. If you can get the same results with a younger and cheaper option, why not get out of such a large contract. No guarantee that he'll play that late into his contract, from ownerships perspective, why not get out of a cumbersome contract if the above statement is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny*canuck Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Totally agree with original post. Luongo is an awesome goaltender, and this team would not have achieved what it has without him. Luongo is the best player on this team, has earned himself as a top league goaltender with two presidents trophy wins in the past two years, and a Game 7 Stanley Cup final. You cannot achieve this without exceptional goal-tending. A team cannot win when it's players are not scoring goals in Stanley Cup games. I almost want to think the anti-Luango comments are from trolls trying to create a bad atmosphere among Canucks fans, wanting a trade out of Vancouver, and onto their team ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyBolland Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Is it because people think Schneider is a friendlier, more likeable guy? It almost seems to me that Schneider is the one who wants more ice time and wants to be a starter, being a bit more selfish for more games whereas Luongo is willing to take one for the team and sit on the bench or even waive his no trade clause if need be to do what's best for the Canucks. If guys like Tuukka Rask can sit patiently behind an ageing Thomas for many years, then Schneider can wait longer than just 2 seasons and stop being so selfish. The last thing you want as an organization is to rush the development of your goaltender and I hate to see players go down the Hodgson-pathway like Schneider may be doing right now, but the thought of trading Kesler or the Sedins never crossed anyone's minds, despite the Sedins and Kesler struggling last playoffs and this season and Hodgson having a great rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 He said "some changes need to be made". He didn't say dismantle the team. Salo was noticeably slower this year in the playoffs and carried the risk of injury. It may be time to say good-bye. Malhotra is an overpayment for what he brought this year. Unless he can somehow elevate his game to what it was before the injury, it's time to say good bye. Raymond appears to be a failed experiment after 3 years. You yourself have said he simply is not a top 6 and is far too weak on his skates ond on the puck to succeed in post-season play. Let him go. BIeksa had a poor year and if not for Hamhuis it would have been attrocious. HE has a NTC so that could be tough but he needs to be better or benched. Edler ( our all-star) was worse than Bieksa. He wasn't physical, got only a couple flukey points in the playoffs and coughed the puck up constantly. Perhaps not the NOrris candidate many thoughtl so depending on what he could fetch, maybe move him. Kesler has plenty of excuses for his off-year so not likely anything will happen there. However, if MG thinks he is going to get more of last year than the previous year, he may move him before his NTC kicks in. Kesler would still be a valuable commodity. The point of all this is to inject new blood and attidude into a lineup that appears too comfortable and friendly and lacking intensity and energy. It would be nice to watch a team compete with the tenacity and intensity that Philly and it's 6 rookies do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawkdrummer Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 To answer OP's question it's simply comes down to this. Lou's cap space is needed to sign Schneider and perhaps enough space is left over to add another skater and/or trade another player as well for someone more useful than what we already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BabyBolland Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 the OP is one of those idiots that can write a 2-page answer to a simple question while saying absolutely nothing useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dildo Faggins Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 The thing about all these Luongo supporters is that they never hold him responsible in the slightest bit for letting in soft goals, inconsistency, having play-off meltdowns where he let's a high number of goals in a small number of shots, or just poor play in general. Its always that the team in front of him was playing like crap, defensive breakdowns, team left him out to dry...etc etc...Never any recognition of any shortcomings whatsoever. Only look at the positive and totally ignore the negative. Its like like they give him unwavering, unconditional support no matter what. Vezina trophy, best goalie the francise ever had blah blah. I'm sick of that crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suolucidir Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 To answer OP's question it's simply comes down to this. Lou's cap space is needed to sign Schneider and perhaps enough space is left over to add another skater and/or trade another player as well for someone more useful than what we already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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